# \[APP\]\[Pro\] \< group \> (3.2.4 - Stable) **URL:** \ **Category:** Apps\ **Tags:** app, homey-pro\ **Created:** [October 23, 2018, 4:16pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168 "2018-10-23T16:16:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 21
**Author:** ![Rudi\_Hendrix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rudi_hendrix/32/31931_2.png) [@Rudi\_Hendrix](https://community.homey.app/u/Rudi_Hendrix)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2021, 3:46pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/423 "2021-11-03T15:46:42Z")
Ok, thanks. That’s too bad. I had no issues when the Zigbee network was managed by Phoscon. But I am not really looking forward to hosting multiple controllers. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2021, 4:10pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/424 "2021-11-03T16:10:55Z")
Add a delay of say 500msec in each group. > ![Screenshot_20211103-174238_Homey](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/7/f/7fa80fd9b3856725cd29ed8485dcb1b646f6c8fb.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Rudi\_Hendrix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rudi_hendrix/32/31931_2.png) [@Rudi\_Hendrix](https://community.homey.app/u/Rudi_Hendrix)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2021, 4:26pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/425 "2021-11-03T16:26:11Z")
Great! From the looks of it, it seems to work! @Peter_Hendrix , didn’t you have this issue with some of your lights as well? ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Hendrix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_hendrix/32/8090_2.png) [@Peter\_Hendrix](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Hendrix)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2021, 5:45pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/426 "2021-11-03T17:45:24Z")
Nope, I am using the Tradfri gateway to steer the groups. But my suspicion is that the gateway uses this ‘trick’ itself because lights turn on one-by-one. ---
**Author:** ![Rudi\_Hendrix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rudi_hendrix/32/31931_2.png) [@Rudi\_Hendrix](https://community.homey.app/u/Rudi_Hendrix)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2021, 6:01am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/427 "2021-11-04T06:01:24Z")
Nope, doesn’t really fix the issue. Seems indeed to be Zigbee. Time and again the same bulbs I have to switch on or off. ---
**Author:** ![JohanL](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/johanl/32/30320_2.png) [@JohanL](https://community.homey.app/u/JohanL)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2021, 9:14am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/428 "2021-11-22T09:14:37Z")
Hello, I may have a feature request 🙂 for the app…or I’ve missed how to do it. I’d like to be able to `add`/`remove`/`clear` devices from groups from flows. My idea is to not only use _\< group \>_ for grouping devices. But also to programmatically (or rather via flows) maintain lists of devices that should be turned on/off. I’ve got flows to turn on/off devices at different times during the day. But I don’t want the devices to be turned on if _none is home_. So instead of directly turning devices on/off at times, I’d like to add the devices to a _“maybe-turned-on”_ group. If someone is home, it would turn the added device on. If none is home, the operation would do nothing. And when coming home, I could just turn on the _“maybe-turned-on”_ (or off when leaving). I guess I need the following flow actions: When… - `Device group members changed`: To be able to check presence and possibly turn on/off Then… - `Add device to group` - `Remove device from group` - `Clear group of devices`: To reset the whole group, without having to know members. Useful for resetting during night. An _And…_ `Device is member of group`, could probably be very useful also. The things you could do with these actions are just so many, makes you wonder why we don’t have native homey group support. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2021, 1:14pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/429 "2021-11-22T13:14:13Z")
> [@JohanL](#): > > But I don’t want the devices to be turned on if _none is home_ . I can’t get my head around it, sorry. With this flow you have the functionality you describe: Translated: IF… This flow is started AND… Someone is at home THEN… Turn on Group X ---
**Author:** ![JohanL](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/johanl/32/30320_2.png) [@JohanL](https://community.homey.app/u/JohanL)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2021, 1:30pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/430 "2021-11-22T13:30:56Z")
Hi, thanks for your reply. Yes, I might not be that good in trying to explain my use case. Today I have a bunch of lamps that are turned on at _sundown_ (and other events). But it is not very environmentally sane to have 10-20 lamps on if you are not at home. So I’d like to only turn on the lamps if someone is home (your flow works), or if someone comes home after the event (sundown), in this case your flow doesn’t work. 1. `WHEN` Sundown event `THEN` add 3 lamps to “_should be on_”-group. 2. `WHEN` “_should be on_”-group member changes `AND` some is home `THEN` turn on whole group 3. `WHEN` someone comes home `THEN` turn on “should be on”-group This can probably be solved with having a static group of lamps for different intervals of the day (on during day, on after sundown, on in the evening, on during night). And have a flow for “coming home” within each of these interval. But keeping a single dynamic list of “should be on” devices would make it so much easier. Also when some event timing changes during the year (like sundown) the order of events might change (_sundown_ being after _evening_ in summer months). ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2021, 2:00pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/431 "2021-11-22T14:00:21Z")
Yes, now I get the idea 😁 That indeed could be a nice addition to the \< group \> app. > [@JohanL](#): > > or if someone comes home after the event (sundown). In this case your flow doesn’t work. I know, of course in case of “If time-event” and “If geofence-event” combinations, a second flow is needed, like IF… someone comes home AND… the sun has set THEN… turn on group X But, speaking for myself, I don’t see a problem with working with pre-defined groups, especially when you know you can add groups to groups. ---
**Author:** ![B3rt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/b3rt/32/9435_2.png) [@B3rt](https://community.homey.app/u/B3rt)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2021, 6:22pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/432 "2021-12-22T18:22:37Z")
Is it possible to add the following group: netscan Currently it is not possible to group this, the app netscan pings or port checks devices and list them on or offline, but i cannot find any matching group or sensor type to select devices created by the netscan app Hope this can be added. Thx. ps: the link in the store and at topic start to github are dead… ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2021, 6:33pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/433 "2021-12-22T18:33:39Z")
Netscan uses `alarm_offline`, which is a custom capability probably. ---
**Author:** ![B3rt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/b3rt/32/9435_2.png) [@B3rt](https://community.homey.app/u/B3rt)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2021, 9:45pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/434 "2021-12-22T21:45:11Z")
I hope this can be added… ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2021, 9:59pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/435 "2021-12-22T21:59:45Z")
Was requested alr I just found out: > [@Peter\_Kawa](#): > > Is it possible to add the `alarm_offline` sensor capability? > I know it is a custom capab. It is from the Net Scan app, brought back to life by @Adrian_Rockall. > It would be great to be able to group all ping devices to monitor and show the status with one \< group \> device. ---
**Author:** ![JPLoonstra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jploonstra/32/49850_2.png) [@JPLoonstra](https://community.homey.app/u/JPLoonstra)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2021, 12:37pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/436 "2021-12-27T12:37:19Z")
Hi @Jamie, Are you working on a Homey (Bridge/Beta) version of this app? Not being able to group anything is one of the most noticeable omissions for Homey. I have lamps with three bulbs, and need to be able to treat the bulbs as one lamp, or one of these days my wife will kill me (or make me stick the old bulbs back in…) ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2021, 11:02pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/437 "2021-12-27T23:02:54Z")
Hi @JPLoonstra , Thanks to Geurt @Dijker we have virtual devices @ Homey cloud, by “using” [CoCo (KlikAanKlikUit) devices](https://community.homey.app/t/bridge-homey-virtual-devices-experiment/52317) Now you can use one device to control many devices at once. _You’ll need the Homey Bridge tho._ 1. Install a random CoCo lamp 2. Just confirm the following question about if you saw the pair LED blink 3. Done, you’ll have yourself a virtual switch. In this flow, 3 items are switched while switching on 1 virtual lamp. Now we all hope you won’t get killed by the misses 😅 🥴 Another idea, you could also use 1 physical lamp as master and the other 2 as slave this way. The lamps which aren’t supposed to be switched by a human, can be moved to a zone called z\_DoNotTouch. That way they’re “out of sight”. ---
**Author:** ![JPLoonstra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jploonstra/32/49850_2.png) [@JPLoonstra](https://community.homey.app/u/JPLoonstra)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2021, 1:11pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/438 "2021-12-28T13:11:53Z")
HI @Peter_Kawa, That a good inbetween solution, I will try it. Besides switching, with \< group \> I will also be able to dim, set color temperatures, etc. so I’m still very interested to see it on Homey Cloud / Bridge! ---
**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2021, 1:23pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/439 "2021-12-28T13:23:17Z")
> [@JPLoonstra](#): > > so I’m still very interested to see it on Homey Cloud / Bridge! According to Athom, apps from the “tools” category will not be made available for Homey Cloud/Bridge. You need a Homey Pro for that. ---
**Author:** ![JPLoonstra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jploonstra/32/49850_2.png) [@JPLoonstra](https://community.homey.app/u/JPLoonstra)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2021, 8:05pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/440 "2021-12-28T20:05:38Z")
Well, I hope they’ll reconsider. Or, better even, add the grouping of devices to the core logic. I think it’s strange they didn’t already do that anyway. ---
**Author:** ![FKey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/fkey/32/14793_2.png) [@FKey](https://community.homey.app/u/FKey)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2021, 8:32pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/441 "2021-12-29T20:32:13Z")
@Jamie I created a group of temperature sensors. I want to use the highest value of the sensors. When I chose this option in the settings the app gives an error ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/b/8/b87ef04cd0a37100905f3bd4cd04e3b143c904e1.png) Any ideas what I do wrong? ---
**Author:** ![Andersh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/andersh/32/16439_2.png) [@Andersh](https://community.homey.app/u/Andersh)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2022, 3:13am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168/442 "2022-01-03T03:13:08Z")
I have that same problem. Energy from groups of consumers are added to the consumers in the Energy tab in the app. So consumption is doubled up. Was there ever any solution to this? [Previous page](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168.md?page=20) [Next page](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-group-3-2-4-stable/3168.md?page=22)