# \[APP\]\[Pro\] Device Capabilities - Enhance the capabilities of devices

**URL:** <https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-device-capabilities-enhance-the-capabilities-of-devices/43287>\
**Category:** Apps\
**Tags:** flow, virtual-device, homey-pro, device-capabilities, avd\
**Created:** [February 19, 2021, 8:20am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-device-capabilities-enhance-the-capabilities-of-devices/43287 "2021-02-19T08:20:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2025, 11:28pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-device-capabilities-enhance-the-capabilities-of-devices/43287/1877 "2025-01-18T23:28:43Z")

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Hello @Petclaud ,

In general, I notice you mistake “it doesn’t work” for “empty result” (= no matching flows found).  
When it actually would not work, the flow card would error, or return no data at all.

> [@Petclaud](#):
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> Using the same example, but now using a Tag, does not work:

You should know the flow card uses the _contents_ of a tag, **not** it’s _name_.  
So, if the contents of [**Peter Mobiel**]

 ![1000041665](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/4/9/49fef00425267ae02aac2de8896eee6a724adfcd.jpeg)  
does not match any variable name, the card returns no matching flows, only `[]` .

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> [@Petclaud](#):
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> Using the tag Solar Opwekking, also does not work:

Same answer, probably no variable name matches exactly with the number value of variable [**Solar Opwekking**].

 ![solar tag](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/a/a/aa99f34e1d379d34e2bb01249447260ecaed1453.jpeg)  
The line is blue (OK), not red (ERROR), and the result is “no flows found” by showing only `[]` .

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> [@Petclaud](#):
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> While I do have a BLL variable named Solar Opwekking:

Here it also doesn’t find any flows using my BLL variables;  
Apparently it only searches for Homey variables?

Nonetheless, I’d like to show a search mistake here:  
When it’s named `Sol ...`  
you shouldn’t filter on `sol...`  
(you used _ **S** _ and _ **s** _ randomly)

The (partly) names should _ **match** _ with your filter.  
When not sure about the first character, filter using a wildcard, like `*olar .... `

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> [@Petclaud](#):
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> And; what does ‘plat’ yes/no do…?

Just run the card twice, with flat or not flat option, and view the difference? 🤷‍♂️

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**Author:** ![Petclaud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/petclaud/32/79271_2.png) [@Petclaud](https://community.homey.app/u/Petclaud)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2025, 7:15am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-device-capabilities-enhance-the-capabilities-of-devices/43287/1878 "2025-01-19T07:15:08Z")

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Hi @Peter_Kawa,

Thank you for your elaborate answer, much appreciated.

Ah, you are right: ‘does not work’ can be read as ‘does not return the expected result’, hence I wrote twice ‘I don’t understand’ and I cannot figure it out 😀

OK, so now I learned that the card looks for the _content_ of a tag, not it’s name. That is already very helpful, thank you.

For the S, s, or wildcard suggestion; they all return no result

 ![olar](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/b/c/bc9cf7ecd734ebba4c60e285bcdf933e273eda82.jpeg)  
 ![sol-2](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/7/0/708b45c134e267082eb19df196a8da4beec208a6.jpeg)  
 ![Sol](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/e/f/ef9a320540dfae3b3df6e806c913ce3b79c17367.jpeg)

That makes sense, as you commented that it looks for the content and not the name. I also learned from your feedback that the search is case sensitive. This is good to stipulate, as the search functions in Homey are not case sensitive.

Yet still then I don’t fully grasp it. While trying to search for the content of a variable, I tried the following:

- I have various flows using the status of one of my Heat Pumps.
- At the moment of the search, the status was Heat
- Using the card, it did not return any flows

 ![Heat-3](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/f/4/f4edd99cf50f710f1cf19a50c994170e261b9930.jpeg)  
 ![Heat-2](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/7/0/7000965c51be963b4fc6e578153327f72e40b30e.jpeg)  
 ![Heat-1](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/1/9/194b23eef239ed5a40ab9375e5338842f37d901e.jpeg)

Snapshot of a part of a flow using this variable:

 ![status](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/8/0/8028a4d97ab2a2e23abf606da9f0e7a054f4da1b.jpeg)

And yes, I had tried to look for different outcomes with ‘Plat’ on or off, but I could not distinguish any different outcomes.

I am just trying to find out what flow is using a certain variable _name_, not its content. Maybe I was off on the wrong foot, as I read that this card was developed based on a script "where are my variables used’ - which I inferred as a tool to search based on the name.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2025, 9:50pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-device-capabilities-enhance-the-capabilities-of-devices/43287/1879 "2025-01-19T21:50:10Z")

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YW, @Petclaud!

> [@Petclaud](#):
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> - At the moment of the search, the status was Heat
> - Using the card, it did not return any flows  
> ![Heat-3](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/f/4/f4edd99cf50f710f1cf19a50c994170e261b9930.jpeg)

This card searches for variable _names_, it does not “see”, and thus doesn’t search the variable’s values.

And about Flat Y/N, here the flattened result shows less additional info.

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**Author:** ![Raita\_Kallio](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/raita_kallio/32/113863_2.png) [@Raita\_Kallio](https://community.homey.app/u/Raita_Kallio)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2025, 8:32pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-device-capabilities-enhance-the-capabilities-of-devices/43287/1880 "2025-01-20T20:32:09Z")

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And again. My first issue was from devices of app “Virtual Devices” and I changed them to Homey native virtual devices (Experiments section in settings). The change didn’t help; sama issue appears with them too.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 3:31am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-device-capabilities-enhance-the-capabilities-of-devices/43287/1881 "2025-01-21T03:31:58Z")

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It has to be Pro 23 firmware related. 3 different apps don’t suddenly return the same error.

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**Author:** ![Halono007](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/halono007/32/80378_2.png) [@Halono007](https://community.homey.app/u/Halono007)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 6:25pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-device-capabilities-enhance-the-capabilities-of-devices/43287/1882 "2025-01-21T18:25:00Z")

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Very nice and thanks for sharing. I might tip you of the [Public holidays | Homey](https://homey.app/no-no/app/no.almli.publicholidays/Public-holidays/) so you can make exceptions like 17. of may etc 🙂 For holidays I use the weekend setup (heat bathroom later in the morning etc).

![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/2/4/24bac155be2a1a3a17bf7827ca45462d4ed4c8f7.png)

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**Author:** ![iBosvelt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ibosvelt/32/47824_2.png) [@iBosvelt](https://community.homey.app/u/iBosvelt)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2025, 2:20pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-device-capabilities-enhance-the-capabilities-of-devices/43287/1883 "2025-01-23T14:20:03Z")

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Can someone perhaps explain to me how to use this card ’ receive the insight value’? I can’t find it anywhere on the forum.

I can select a device, but never a capability. Typing ’ onoff’ is not accepted and no dropdown menu becomes available.

![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/f/b/fb7aeaa74ad1ea4229ecb2eb0ccfc47e833c12c3.png)

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**Author:** ![SingKT](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/singkt/32/173226_2.png) [@SingKT](https://community.homey.app/u/SingKT)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2025, 2:55pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-device-capabilities-enhance-the-capabilities-of-devices/43287/1884 "2025-01-23T14:55:09Z")

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Same thing with me. Can select a device but the card does neither have a drop down nor does it accept the correct name of an/the available insight

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**Author:** ![Arie\_J\_Godschalk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/arie_j_godschalk/32/63027_2.png) [@Arie\_J\_Godschalk](https://community.homey.app/u/Arie_J_Godschalk)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2025, 3:19pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-device-capabilities-enhance-the-capabilities-of-devices/43287/1885 "2025-01-23T15:19:20Z")

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> [@iBosvelt](#):
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> but never a capability

Hey,

Also for @SingKT .  
The device you are selecting, do they have insights?  
If you open the device f.i. in the Honey app, does it show on/off info on the insight tab?

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**Author:** ![SunBeech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/sunbeech/32/111391_2.png) [@SunBeech](https://community.homey.app/u/SunBeech)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2025, 3:24pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-device-capabilities-enhance-the-capabilities-of-devices/43287/1886 "2025-01-23T15:24:00Z")

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Somewhat similar situation for the tags-version of this card: I can manually input the name of a device (like my Netatmo weather station) and select a capability in the list of tags (temperature token), but it does not retrieve any values / change timestamps. I only returns a 0 value.

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**Author:** ![Arie\_J\_Godschalk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/arie_j_godschalk/32/63027_2.png) [@Arie\_J\_Godschalk](https://community.homey.app/u/Arie_J_Godschalk)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2025, 3:25pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-device-capabilities-enhance-the-capabilities-of-devices/43287/1887 "2025-01-23T15:25:56Z")

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> [@SunBeech](#):
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> but it does not retrieve any values / change timestamps

Okay, could you create a ticket for this?  
Ill pick it up as soon as the current testversion is working correct.

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**Author:** ![SunBeech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/sunbeech/32/111391_2.png) [@SunBeech](https://community.homey.app/u/SunBeech)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2025, 3:38pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-device-capabilities-enhance-the-capabilities-of-devices/43287/1888 "2025-01-23T15:38:42Z")

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Submitted [#105](https://bitbucket.org/QlusterIT/nl.qluster-it.devicecapabilities/issues/105/retrieve-insights-cards-not-working).

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**Author:** ![iBosvelt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ibosvelt/32/47824_2.png) [@iBosvelt](https://community.homey.app/u/iBosvelt)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2025, 4:29pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-device-capabilities-enhance-the-capabilities-of-devices/43287/1889 "2025-01-23T16:29:17Z")

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Yes they have.

Maby you can look at it at the same time witch Sunbeech’s ticket 🙂

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**Author:** ![SunBeech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/sunbeech/32/111391_2.png) [@SunBeech](https://community.homey.app/u/SunBeech)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2025, 6:31pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-device-capabilities-enhance-the-capabilities-of-devices/43287/1890 "2025-01-23T18:31:36Z")

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I included both your and mine observation in the ticket 😀.

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**Author:** ![Arie\_J\_Godschalk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/arie_j_godschalk/32/63027_2.png) [@Arie\_J\_Godschalk](https://community.homey.app/u/Arie_J_Godschalk)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2025, 6:43pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-device-capabilities-enhance-the-capabilities-of-devices/43287/1891 "2025-01-23T18:43:57Z")

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> [@iBosvelt](#):
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> Maby you can look at it at the same time witch Sunbeech’s ticket 🙂

Yours might be a bit easier.  
Would you:

- Restart the DC app (to clear any diagnostics)
- try to fill the flowcard (select device and then try to select the capability).
- send me an DC app diagnostic.

Perhaps i can see an obvious message in the diagnostic.

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**Author:** ![iBosvelt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ibosvelt/32/47824_2.png) [@iBosvelt](https://community.homey.app/u/iBosvelt)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2025, 7:07pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-device-capabilities-enhance-the-capabilities-of-devices/43287/1892 "2025-01-23T19:07:17Z")

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Done!

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**Author:** ![Arie\_J\_Godschalk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/arie_j_godschalk/32/63027_2.png) [@Arie\_J\_Godschalk](https://community.homey.app/u/Arie_J_Godschalk)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2025, 7:11pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-device-capabilities-enhance-the-capabilities-of-devices/43287/1893 "2025-01-23T19:11:50Z")

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@iBosvelt  
Thanks.  
But sorry, i dont see the obvious reason for the list not to show-up.  
However, you do have an error in reflection with a device.  
Somewhere you are reflecting something of Lamp-Badkamer. Perhaps an old device or timeouts?

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**Author:** ![iBosvelt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ibosvelt/32/47824_2.png) [@iBosvelt](https://community.homey.app/u/iBosvelt)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2025, 7:22pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-device-capabilities-enhance-the-capabilities-of-devices/43287/1894 "2025-01-23T19:22:51Z")

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I tried several devices. Maybe it was because of a specific device that didn’t work. But it does not appear to work with any device.

I have the homey pro '23 and latest firmware. 12.3.0 off the top of my head.  
I don’t know if other users are experiencing the same thing or if I am the only one. Maby @SunBeech?

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**Author:** ![SunBeech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/sunbeech/32/111391_2.png) [@SunBeech](https://community.homey.app/u/SunBeech)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2025, 7:45pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-device-capabilities-enhance-the-capabilities-of-devices/43287/1895 "2025-01-23T19:45:04Z")

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Same here for me. Identical Homey and firmware as yours.

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**Author:** ![SingKT](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/singkt/32/173226_2.png) [@SingKT](https://community.homey.app/u/SingKT)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2025, 3:18am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-device-capabilities-enhance-the-capabilities-of-devices/43287/1896 "2025-01-24T03:18:21Z")

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Yes, I checked there are insights or rather one, Temperature. Am using version 2.15.4 on Homey pro 2023 version 12.2.1.

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