# \[APP\]\[Pro\]\[Deprecated\] 50five - Smart charging at home for you electric vehicle **URL:** \ **Category:** Apps\ **Tags:** app, homey-pro\ **Created:** [October 8, 2019, 3:59pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-deprecated-50five-smart-charging-at-home-for-you-electric-vehicle/19001 "2019-10-08T15:59:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![Kaoh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/kaoh/32/9283_2.png) [@Kaoh](https://community.homey.app/u/Kaoh)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2025, 10:55pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-deprecated-50five-smart-charging-at-home-for-you-electric-vehicle/19001/323 "2025-07-04T22:55:57Z")
Check, so we will have to see if that additional data is there based on model ---
**Author:** ![Torch1969](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/torch1969/32/33305_2.png) [@Torch1969](https://community.homey.app/u/Torch1969)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2025, 9:41am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-deprecated-50five-smart-charging-at-home-for-you-electric-vehicle/19001/324 "2025-07-05T09:41:33Z")
What I see in the log lines is that the charge point reports every 15 minutes (or if I click on “status opvragen”). One of the data points is the energy meter value (in wh). With this the charged energy of the past ## minutes is reported en I suspect the power is calculated based on this (energy past ## minutes/##minutes). ---
**Author:** ![Kaoh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/kaoh/32/9283_2.png) [@Kaoh](https://community.homey.app/u/Kaoh)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2025, 10:15am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-deprecated-50five-smart-charging-at-home-for-you-electric-vehicle/19001/325 "2025-07-05T10:15:52Z")
The security part will be the challenge, do they enforce mfa? Is there a normal oauth login process behind the site and app etc I don’t have access yet to reverse engineer that part. ---
**Author:** ![Torch1969](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/torch1969/32/33305_2.png) [@Torch1969](https://community.homey.app/u/Torch1969)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2025, 12:24pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-deprecated-50five-smart-charging-at-home-for-you-electric-vehicle/19001/326 "2025-07-05T12:24:13Z")
It is just “normal” username & password login. No MFA. Don’t know about oauth. The app has less options and insights than the website. All is a 50five branded version of chargepoint management from last mile solutions. > **[50five:"Partnership Last Mile Solutions cruciaal voor onze verdere Europese...](https://www.lastmilesolutions.com/nl/nieuws/partnership50five-2/)** > > Due to the rapid growth in both the number and diversity of customers, the financial complexity for us as CPO quickly increased, Maybe you can find some info on that already? These are the partners : [Last Mile Solutions app - Last Mile Solutions](https://www.lastmilesolutions.com/nl/last-mile-solutions-app/) Or register account on demo site (login page same as for 50five)? [Last Mile Solutions - Demo](https://demo.evc-net.com/Login/Login?lang=nl) ---
**Author:** ![Kaoh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/kaoh/32/9283_2.png) [@Kaoh](https://community.homey.app/u/Kaoh)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2025, 5:24pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-deprecated-50five-smart-charging-at-home-for-you-electric-vehicle/19001/327 "2025-07-11T17:24:04Z")
I got the mail now. The demo site register account still requires a banc account, trying to see if I can fake one ---
**Author:** ![Torch1969](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/torch1969/32/33305_2.png) [@Torch1969](https://community.homey.app/u/Torch1969)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2025, 8:38am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-deprecated-50five-smart-charging-at-home-for-you-electric-vehicle/19001/328 "2025-07-13T08:38:22Z")
Just generate a random IBAN number: [http://randomiban.com/](http://randomiban.com/) ---
**Author:** ![Kaoh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/kaoh/32/9283_2.png) [@Kaoh](https://community.homey.app/u/Kaoh)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2025, 8:54am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-deprecated-50five-smart-charging-at-home-for-you-electric-vehicle/19001/329 "2025-07-13T08:54:01Z")
I did, but the system is not sending the confirmation mails, tried with 3 different mail domains 😔 ---
**Author:** ![Torch1969](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/torch1969/32/33305_2.png) [@Torch1969](https://community.homey.app/u/Torch1969)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2025, 10:07am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-deprecated-50five-smart-charging-at-home-for-you-electric-vehicle/19001/330 "2025-07-13T10:07:08Z")
Ok, I tried also, same here (gmail) 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Kaoh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/kaoh/32/9283_2.png) [@Kaoh](https://community.homey.app/u/Kaoh)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2025, 8:30pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-deprecated-50five-smart-charging-at-home-for-you-electric-vehicle/19001/331 "2025-07-14T20:30:40Z")
I hope I get access before my holiday, else it is going to take more time ☹ how long did it take for your announcement mail till the welkm mail? ---
**Author:** ![Torch1969](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/torch1969/32/33305_2.png) [@Torch1969](https://community.homey.app/u/Torch1969)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2025, 5:26am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-deprecated-50five-smart-charging-at-home-for-you-electric-vehicle/19001/332 "2025-07-15T05:26:33Z")
> [@Kaoh](#): > > how long did it take for your announcement mail till the welkm mail? After 2 days the chargepoint was migrated and 2 days after that we received the welcome mail. ---
**Author:** ![Rudi\_Hendrix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rudi_hendrix/32/31931_2.png) [@Rudi\_Hendrix](https://community.homey.app/u/Rudi_Hendrix)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2025, 6:02am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-deprecated-50five-smart-charging-at-home-for-you-electric-vehicle/19001/333 "2025-07-15T06:02:49Z")
Yesterday I also received the mail that I will be migrated “somewhere in July”. Let’s hope for the best! Fortunately, I can control charging through the car ---
**Author:** ![Kaoh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/kaoh/32/9283_2.png) [@Kaoh](https://community.homey.app/u/Kaoh)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2025, 6:44pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-deprecated-50five-smart-charging-at-home-for-you-electric-vehicle/19001/334 "2025-07-17T18:44:05Z")
I got migrated today, point went offline and I got the mail at the end off the day. Behavior of the point seems different (need to unplug before I can swipe again) but my card is not properly migrated, also can not add it. Two test charge session showed little details while active and they don’t show up in the history. I have access to the site now and it’s not good news. Api’s are hidden behind the front end using ajax controls and Auth is also again session based. Will be a lot of content crawling to get details 😔 ---
**Author:** ![Rudi\_Hendrix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rudi_hendrix/32/31931_2.png) [@Rudi\_Hendrix](https://community.homey.app/u/Rudi_Hendrix)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2025, 8:11pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-deprecated-50five-smart-charging-at-home-for-you-electric-vehicle/19001/335 "2025-07-17T20:11:03Z")
Does anyone know why this is done? Shell seems to be piggying back on their “green” choices, right? ---
**Author:** ![Kaoh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/kaoh/32/9283_2.png) [@Kaoh](https://community.homey.app/u/Kaoh)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2025, 8:28pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-deprecated-50five-smart-charging-at-home-for-you-electric-vehicle/19001/336 "2025-07-17T20:28:12Z")
I think it is because this is a direct b2c field and they don’t play in that field. Low margin low effort, not worth their attention. The fast charge system they keep I believe ---
**Author:** ![Kaoh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/kaoh/32/9283_2.png) [@Kaoh](https://community.homey.app/u/Kaoh)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2025, 9:55am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-deprecated-50five-smart-charging-at-home-for-you-electric-vehicle/19001/337 "2025-07-20T09:55:51Z")
Are able to start a transaction from that portal? I am not offered any card to start a new transaction I also do not see cards in the mobile app, only on the portal in the section autherized cards. I also noticed that when I list my charge sessions I need to switch the filter to ‘your chargepoint’ from my sessions. SO it seems they consider my employer card now an external card and not MY card. Helpdesk is not getting my problem or they claim it is not a feature yet. ---
**Author:** ![Kaoh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/kaoh/32/9283_2.png) [@Kaoh](https://community.homey.app/u/Kaoh)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2025, 9:58am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-deprecated-50five-smart-charging-at-home-for-you-electric-vehicle/19001/338 "2025-07-20T09:58:42Z")
Update: I am making some progress, I am able to login from homey and retrieve my chargepoint list AND get details from the single point. The data is a bit hacking since it is dirty like: status is not a field but in the event field there are value pairs that include the status. more like a message than actuall data. Feels risky from coding perspective but I thik it will be usefull. Did not attempt to interact with the chareger yet, first get the status working into the old driver. ---
**Author:** ![Torch1969](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/torch1969/32/33305_2.png) [@Torch1969](https://community.homey.app/u/Torch1969)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2025, 10:48am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-deprecated-50five-smart-charging-at-home-for-you-electric-vehicle/19001/339 "2025-07-20T10:48:53Z")
> [@Kaoh](#): > > Are able to start a transaction from that portal? > I am not offered any card to start a new transaction > I also do not see cards in the mobile app, only on the portal in the section autherized cards. > > I also noticed that when I list my charge sessions I need to switch the filter to ‘your chargepoint’ from my sessions. SO it seems they consider my employer card now an external card and not MY card. Helpdesk is not getting my problem or they claim it is not a feature yet. We also use an employer card from shell. In 50five site & app this card isn’t shown in “my cards”. I suppose because this isn’t a 50five charge card. However I can start a charging session with it. Just fill in the card number (copy/paste from earlier charge session) in the pop-up to start a charge session. This works for me. Nice to read you make progress. I’m happy to do some (beta) testing. ---
**Author:** ![Kaoh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/kaoh/32/9283_2.png) [@Kaoh](https://community.homey.app/u/Kaoh)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2025, 3:39pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-deprecated-50five-smart-charging-at-home-for-you-electric-vehicle/19001/340 "2025-07-24T15:39:35Z")
A heads up: I have most of the fundatmentals working at this point, including the more live current power and energy use metrics. Still need some time to cleanup and make sure the new device wizard still works etc. Speically the cards are a bit of a nightmare, looks like there is no api call on their side for that. So I am getting ready for a test version to upgrade the shell recharge charge points to 50five, make sure if you are not migrated yet to NOT install that test version. The people that are migrated can try it out and see if it works. You will have to go into device settings to enter the printed card number you want to use as default card. Still need to look at the card workflow support at this time. I will leave on holiday so wont be able to continue for some time, but at least its clear I can get everything to work again 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Victor\_Bicknese](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/victor_bicknese/32/177200_2.png) [@Victor\_Bicknese](https://community.homey.app/u/Victor_Bicknese)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2025, 4:36pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-deprecated-50five-smart-charging-at-home-for-you-electric-vehicle/19001/341 "2025-07-24T16:36:32Z")
Thank you and enjoy your vacation! ---
**Author:** ![Torch1969](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/torch1969/32/33305_2.png) [@Torch1969](https://community.homey.app/u/Torch1969)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2025, 10:22am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-deprecated-50five-smart-charging-at-home-for-you-electric-vehicle/19001/342 "2025-07-25T10:22:51Z")
Great, thx for your effort. I will take a look at the test version. If it doesn’t work it’s no problem, at this moment I only have manual charging, so everything (in the future) will be better than that 😀 Enjoy your holidays 🌞 [Previous page](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-deprecated-50five-smart-charging-at-home-for-you-electric-vehicle/19001.md?page=16) [Next page](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-deprecated-50five-smart-charging-at-home-for-you-electric-vehicle/19001.md?page=18)