# \[APP\]\[Pro\]\[Deprecated\] 50five - Smart charging at home for you electric vehicle **URL:** \ **Category:** Apps\ **Tags:** app, homey-pro\ **Created:** [October 8, 2019, 3:59pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-deprecated-50five-smart-charging-at-home-for-you-electric-vehicle/19001 "2019-10-08T15:59:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![Kaoh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/kaoh/32/9283_2.png) [@Kaoh](https://community.homey.app/u/Kaoh)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 8:09pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-deprecated-50five-smart-charging-at-home-for-you-electric-vehicle/19001/263 "2025-04-01T20:09:26Z")
Does the web site for shell recharge ask the Ota for you? ---
**Author:** ![Yannick\_Eeckelaert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/yannick_eeckelaert/32/35262_2.png) [@Yannick\_Eeckelaert](https://community.homey.app/u/Yannick_Eeckelaert)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 8:28pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-deprecated-50five-smart-charging-at-home-for-you-electric-vehicle/19001/264 "2025-04-01T20:28:34Z")
Yes , I can not turn it off ---
**Author:** ![Kaoh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/kaoh/32/9283_2.png) [@Kaoh](https://community.homey.app/u/Kaoh)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 8:44pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-deprecated-50five-smart-charging-at-home-for-you-electric-vehicle/19001/265 "2025-04-01T20:44:27Z")
Can you give me screenshot how it looks for you on the shell recharge website? It does not trigger for my account. Even though it is on for the mobile app ---
**Author:** ![Yannick\_Eeckelaert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/yannick_eeckelaert/32/35262_2.png) [@Yannick\_Eeckelaert](https://community.homey.app/u/Yannick_Eeckelaert)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2025, 5:33am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-deprecated-50five-smart-charging-at-home-for-you-electric-vehicle/19001/266 "2025-04-02T05:33:43Z")
I tested again end no ota…. Restart Homey. Tride multi times en no it Works. Whats the setting “auto instellingen? Is this the max that the car can charge? Because the charger can charge 22kw the car 11kw Met vriendelijke groet, Yannick Eeckelaert ---
**Author:** ![Kaoh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/kaoh/32/9283_2.png) [@Kaoh](https://community.homey.app/u/Kaoh)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2025, 6:21am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-deprecated-50five-smart-charging-at-home-for-you-electric-vehicle/19001/267 "2025-04-02T06:21:44Z")
Yes, it’s the charge the car will drain. So dry it to match what the car will use. This helps Homey to include it properly in the energy ratings of your home. ---
**Author:** ![Elmar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/elmar/32/131852_2.png) [@Elmar](https://community.homey.app/u/Elmar)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2025, 8:45pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-deprecated-50five-smart-charging-at-home-for-you-electric-vehicle/19001/268 "2025-04-13T20:45:37Z")
Does this work with homet energy? Since i cant see the amount of kwh its used and i can’t set the price . ---
**Author:** ![Kaoh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/kaoh/32/9283_2.png) [@Kaoh](https://community.homey.app/u/Kaoh)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2025, 9:17pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-deprecated-50five-smart-charging-at-home-for-you-electric-vehicle/19001/269 "2025-04-13T21:17:37Z")
It does but comes with some setup requirements. The shell recharge points originally from new motion dont report the kW usage live only after the session So you need to setup the right kW drain yourself in the settings or through flow (allows for more dynamic behavior) and make sure you enabled the Include charge capacity in Energy setting (that is a custom one next to the Exclude from energy that Homey also supports). With that all setup (I use the flow to keep track of the meassurements from my car and apply the kW measures into the charge point) it should show in the Energy dashboard. If you added the device long ago, you migh have to re-add the device since it requires the the device type to be correct, I did add that EV charger device type some time ago, but I dont believe they get updated to existing devices. ---
**Author:** ![Elmar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/elmar/32/131852_2.png) [@Elmar](https://community.homey.app/u/Elmar)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 7:10pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-deprecated-50five-smart-charging-at-home-for-you-electric-vehicle/19001/270 "2025-04-14T19:10:28Z")
How does that flow look like. For me my charge point is off and the animation still says the ev point is charging ---
**Author:** ![Kaoh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/kaoh/32/9283_2.png) [@Kaoh](https://community.homey.app/u/Kaoh)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 7:37pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-deprecated-50five-smart-charging-at-home-for-you-electric-vehicle/19001/271 "2025-04-14T19:37:40Z")
On versus active charging makes a difference, teal light versus dark blue light. But those animations are not very accurate on my side. I don’t know how Homey animations are determined but it goes a bit over the place right now. But my logic is: when charging the app uses the attribute off charging power as the current usage. That attribute you can change from flows if you have a alternative measure device (like your car or a kwh device). So this one is an estimation. Once the session ends I get the real kwh usage from the api and update that to the energy value. So that one is accurate but jumps after sessions. Homey energy dashboard users both values to animate, show totals etc. But… ---
**Author:** ![Kaoh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/kaoh/32/9283_2.png) [@Kaoh](https://community.homey.app/u/Kaoh)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 8:10pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-deprecated-50five-smart-charging-at-home-for-you-electric-vehicle/19001/272 "2025-04-14T20:10:06Z")
And when not charging, it still uses a bit of power, maybe Homey cares about that 1w value already enought to consider it part of the animation. ---
**Author:** ![Yannick\_Eeckelaert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/yannick_eeckelaert/32/35262_2.png) [@Yannick\_Eeckelaert](https://community.homey.app/u/Yannick_Eeckelaert)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 9:06pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-deprecated-50five-smart-charging-at-home-for-you-electric-vehicle/19001/273 "2025-04-19T21:06:42Z")
@Kaoh I have a strange problem when I attach my car to the charger en it starts charger it go’s ofline. Not in the Shell app but only in Homey ![IMG_3742](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/d/8/d80980ef54478d4732c5bd590c1a17df79337a8a.png) ---
**Author:** ![Kaoh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/kaoh/32/9283_2.png) [@Kaoh](https://community.homey.app/u/Kaoh)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2025, 3:01pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-deprecated-50five-smart-charging-at-home-for-you-electric-vehicle/19001/274 "2025-04-22T15:01:37Z")
It is werid indeed. I dont see any logic how this could be unless the api of shell actually returns that value. I also have something weird myself: My api messages never tell me anymore that charging/laden is active, looks like yours also doesnt. the status field from the api I derrive that from is just not changing anymore into different state of connected/charging. So it seems thay are not maintaining this api behind the site very well anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Yannick\_Eeckelaert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/yannick_eeckelaert/32/35262_2.png) [@Yannick\_Eeckelaert](https://community.homey.app/u/Yannick_Eeckelaert)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2025, 5:48pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-deprecated-50five-smart-charging-at-home-for-you-electric-vehicle/19001/275 "2025-04-22T17:48:16Z")
Anything I can do? Could we fix this? Met vriendelijke groet, Yannick Eeckelaert ---
**Author:** ![Yannick\_Eeckelaert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/yannick_eeckelaert/32/35262_2.png) [@Yannick\_Eeckelaert](https://community.homey.app/u/Yannick_Eeckelaert)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 9:05pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-deprecated-50five-smart-charging-at-home-for-you-electric-vehicle/19001/276 "2025-04-26T21:05:11Z")
Seems like chaging State end offline State is scrambeld. Is de car is connected without Charing it dos not say offline. When it starts chaging it says offline. Met vriendelijke groet, Yannick Eeckelaert Begin doorgestuurd bericht: ---
**Author:** ![Elmar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/elmar/32/131852_2.png) [@Elmar](https://community.homey.app/u/Elmar)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2025, 10:17pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-deprecated-50five-smart-charging-at-home-for-you-electric-vehicle/19001/277 "2025-04-27T22:17:06Z")
It also doesn’t show the actual charge kwh it only uses the input you set in the settings. I thought this was dynamic before? ---
**Author:** ![Kaoh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/kaoh/32/9283_2.png) [@Kaoh](https://community.homey.app/u/Kaoh)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2025, 10:37pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-deprecated-50five-smart-charging-at-home-for-you-electric-vehicle/19001/278 "2025-04-27T22:37:33Z")
Never was, it’s not part of the api. Do you also have the offline behavior? ---
**Author:** ![Elmar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/elmar/32/131852_2.png) [@Elmar](https://community.homey.app/u/Elmar)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2025, 6:33am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-deprecated-50five-smart-charging-at-home-for-you-electric-vehicle/19001/279 "2025-04-28T06:33:46Z")
I think im now more diving into it because of the energy dongle. But I’ve got no issues with offline, i do have issues with not popping up in energy tab anymore since last update from homey. This is probably not the apps problem. Do think shell recharge api is too outdated here it should be able to give realtime data ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Snijders](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rick_snijders/32/81061_2.png) [@Rick\_Snijders](https://community.homey.app/u/Rick_Snijders)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2025, 9:24am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-deprecated-50five-smart-charging-at-home-for-you-electric-vehicle/19001/280 "2025-04-28T09:24:45Z")
is it just me or is it true that a number of fields are not synced? I reinstalled the app 5 days ago for testing but loading the map now suddenly always stays on no. consumption ditto. I also saw the pole in the energy tab (where it apparently always consumed a little power because the line kept running there) but it has now suddenly disappeared there too. although the consumption is shown in the list of major consumers. ![Laadpaal](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/e/8/e8b8db3b8880008eebadab2b0dfcaa8c3c8aad6f.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Kaoh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/kaoh/32/9283_2.png) [@Kaoh](https://community.homey.app/u/Kaoh)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2025, 10:09am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-deprecated-50five-smart-charging-at-home-for-you-electric-vehicle/19001/281 "2025-04-28T10:09:51Z")
That’s the same issue I am seeing myself. Their api doesn’t provide these values anymore. I need to figure how to bypass that or we wait for them (shell) to fix it. But with them selling their charger business it’s unlikely they care right now. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Snijders](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rick_snijders/32/81061_2.png) [@Rick\_Snijders](https://community.homey.app/u/Rick_Snijders)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2025, 1:02pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-deprecated-50five-smart-charging-at-home-for-you-electric-vehicle/19001/282 "2025-04-28T13:02:53Z")
> [@Kaoh](#): > > But with them selling their charger business it’s unlikely they care right now. that was exactly what i thought too 😔 [Previous page](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-deprecated-50five-smart-charging-at-home-for-you-electric-vehicle/19001.md?page=13) [Next page](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-deprecated-50five-smart-charging-at-home-for-you-electric-vehicle/19001.md?page=15)