# \[APP\]\[Pro\] Chronograph - Adds precise timer, stopwatch and transition functionality to Homey

**URL:** <https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-chronograph-adds-precise-timer-stopwatch-and-transition-functionality-to-homey/18214>\
**Category:** Apps\
**Tags:** app, official, tools, homey-pro\
**Created:** [September 17, 2019, 5:55am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-chronograph-adds-precise-timer-stopwatch-and-transition-functionality-to-homey/18214 "2019-09-17T05:55:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Arie\_J\_Godschalk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/arie_j_godschalk/32/63027_2.png) [@Arie\_J\_Godschalk](https://community.homey.app/u/Arie_J_Godschalk)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2022, 9:35pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-chronograph-adds-precise-timer-stopwatch-and-transition-functionality-to-homey/18214/291 "2022-10-25T21:35:59Z")

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Okay, it seems to me that the SDK3 update was succesfull, so i have just submitted it for review!

Coming up (i’ll first wait for the SDK to be released to live, then i’ll release this into test):  
The Pause/Resume and (now) start/stop buttons are pushable and the show the status:

![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/b/5/b575effd0e56b0cb15a6fad904fff11ded496820.png)

![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/a/b/ab1fe173ae11f34f1d430095b248dd7c34d2f816.png)

And stopped:  
 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/7/e/7e69a061a42e4423682254044975adaf0767ebe9.png)

**Now, you can push the start button when it is stopped, and the timer/transition/stopwatch will be started with the last started values.**

I’ll release this to Test as soon as SDK3 is live.

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**Author:** ![Twan\_Veugelers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/twan_veugelers/32/129333_2.png) [@Twan\_Veugelers](https://community.homey.app/u/Twan_Veugelers)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2022, 12:23pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-chronograph-adds-precise-timer-stopwatch-and-transition-functionality-to-homey/18214/292 "2022-10-26T12:23:39Z")

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Hi @Arie_J_Godschalk

I’m now in the process to replace all flows that used the (no longer maintained, as it appears now) countdown app.

Maybe I might be stupid but I expect, that this step would ‘reset’ the timer to 4 hours, but I see in the app settings that the whole timer is removed by this step.

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/1/c/1c3c55f38f69bbea05940b4bf3aee1d3d58f2a06.png)

I basically want always have this timer running, unless none of the 3 when values has changed for 4 hours.  
So how would I create that with the Chronograph timer?

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**Author:** ![Arie\_J\_Godschalk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/arie_j_godschalk/32/63027_2.png) [@Arie\_J\_Godschalk](https://community.homey.app/u/Arie_J_Godschalk)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2022, 12:44pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-chronograph-adds-precise-timer-stopwatch-and-transition-functionality-to-homey/18214/293 "2022-10-26T12:44:03Z")

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> [@Twan\_Veugelers](#):
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> (no longer maintained, as it appears now) countdown app.

Just FYI: as far as i know, this is not correct: @ralfvd plans to update to SDK3, but he has a lott of apps that need to be updated and he just needs time, like most dev’s. 😉

@Peter_Kawa do you know (out of head) how this can be accomplished?

because i don’t see anything wrong (i assume @Twan_Veugelers that you only use one of the Then cards and not both at the same time?  
The upper right cards should be just enough.  
And i don’t see any reasons that it should stop, execpt: if you execute the Start time AND the Update time card, it might be that generates an error, depending on which fires first.

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**Author:** ![Twan\_Veugelers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/twan_veugelers/32/129333_2.png) [@Twan\_Veugelers](https://community.homey.app/u/Twan_Veugelers)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2022, 1:04pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-chronograph-adds-precise-timer-stopwatch-and-transition-functionality-to-homey/18214/294 "2022-10-26T13:04:18Z")

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Hi @Arie_J_Godschalk .

When I ‘test from here’ on one of the When cards, and I have the Chronograph App config open (I see the timer nicely running), as soon as the flow hits the highlighted step, the whole timer is removed.

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**Author:** ![Arie\_J\_Godschalk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/arie_j_godschalk/32/63027_2.png) [@Arie\_J\_Godschalk](https://community.homey.app/u/Arie_J_Godschalk)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2022, 1:22pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-chronograph-adds-precise-timer-stopwatch-and-transition-functionality-to-homey/18214/295 "2022-10-26T13:22:56Z")

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> [@Twan\_Veugelers](#):
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> Hi @Arie_J_Godschalk .
> 
> When I ‘test from here’ on one of the When cards, and I have the Chronograph App config open (I see the timer nicely running), as soon as the flow hits the highlighted step, the whole timer is removed.

Please Send me the TEF for this flow, so i can simulate it exactly how you made it (bugs are copied with the exchange file).

- Install the [Device Capabilities App](https://homey.app/a/nl.qluster-it.DeviceCapabilities/)
- Goto App Settings
- Click on Export
- Select the mentioned flow
- Press create Exchanger File

Now the TEF is under your clipboard/paste-function so you can reply it here.  
Place it within a code block by using ` ` ```.

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**Author:** ![Twan\_Veugelers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/twan_veugelers/32/129333_2.png) [@Twan\_Veugelers](https://community.homey.app/u/Twan_Veugelers)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2022, 1:44pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-chronograph-adds-precise-timer-stopwatch-and-transition-functionality-to-homey/18214/297 "2022-10-26T13:44:13Z")

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```auto
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Hopefully this is correct.

[Video on how the step removes the timer](https://youtube.com/shorts/jytDjjRqyV8?feature=share)

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2022, 2:17pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-chronograph-adds-precise-timer-stopwatch-and-transition-functionality-to-homey/18214/298 "2022-10-26T14:17:56Z")

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> [@Twan\_Veugelers](#):
>
> I expect, that this step would ‘reset’ the timer to 4 hours, but I see in the app settings that the whole timer is removed by this step.

> [@Arie\_J\_Godschalk](#):
>
> @Peter_Kawa do you know (out of head) how this can be accomplished?

Yes it is in the topic somewhere.

> [@\[APP\]\[Pro\] Chronograph - Adds precise timer, stopwatch and transition functionality to Homey](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-chronograph-adds-precise-timer-stopwatch-and-transition-functionality-to-homey/18214/214):
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> YW! It’s a matter of how one looks at it. This way you cannot ‘by accident’ change a 60m timer into a 60hrs timer. OR You can only change values within the defined timer duration. Or it is just impossible the way the app is written. It’s also the way one looks at it: In this case, +30mins fastforwards the timer, -30mins rewinds the timer This app is looking for a new developer by the way, so if you know anyone…

It is not exactly similar, but I think the issue is Twan wants to extend a timer which is not running.  
**Timers don’t disappear from the app settings page though, only if you start an other timer with an equal name (it gets overwritten), or when it is not running.**  
So it is normal behaviour the timer disappears from the running timers overview.

Here in the thread is a script which shows all your ever started timers, stopwatches and transitions:

> [@\[APP\]\[Pro\] Chronograph - Adds precise timer, stopwatch and transition functionality to Homey](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-chronograph-adds-precise-timer-stopwatch-and-transition-functionality-to-homey/18214/270):
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> @Arie_J_Godschalk I saved a script once, this shows all timers/stopwatches/transitions used in flows. From the returned data I think it shows all timers etc. I created and occur in a flowcard. Might be of any use, Arie! const flowsDic = await Homey.flow.getFlows(); const flows = Object.values(flowsDic) const actions = flows.map(f =\> f.actions.filter(a =\> a.uri === 'homey:app:nl.fellownet.chronograph')).flat() log(actions.reduce((a,x,y,z) =\> ({...a, [x.args.name]:x.id.split('\_')[0] }), {})) …

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**Author:** ![Arie\_J\_Godschalk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/arie_j_godschalk/32/63027_2.png) [@Arie\_J\_Godschalk](https://community.homey.app/u/Arie_J_Godschalk)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2022, 2:32pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-chronograph-adds-precise-timer-stopwatch-and-transition-functionality-to-homey/18214/299 "2022-10-26T14:32:01Z")

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> [@Twan\_Veugelers](#):
>
> Hopefully this is correct.

Indeed it is, still loving this import!  
**This:**

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/5/b/5bcde8a760b560a886b1bad922891db706a9ee5b.png)

**Got me this:**

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/f/7/f7680be98f139f74460123f8b0f9f489414981af.png)

Altho i ofc didn’t have the telegram app installed, but after removing it, the flow runs.

@Emile Advanced Flows can surely be copied between devices, since i can copy them between users even 😉  
This works excellent for support, i don’t need to rebuild the flow (and possible fix the issue by creating it differently). You should have the support employee’s ask for [TEF’s](https://community.homey.app/t/the-flow-exchange-r-exchange-your-flows-with-others/68981) 😉 Easy way to find bugs that image do not show you, see below!

But back to the by you @Twan_Veugelers reported issue, you are right, i also get the same issue.  
**But that is because, you also have something else in the flow that you didn’t show in the picture:**

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/6/1/614de76a25c7ed70541961c06998989293e852f4.png)

You are stopping it yourself, because of a **bug** that the trigger is triggered when you adjust the time 😉

The solution i’ll place in a different post, one sec.

BTW, Adjusting it by 4 hours means ADDING it to the current time. I think you actually simple want the Start Card, this one sets it to 4 hours exactly when you use it and the timer was already running.

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**Author:** ![Arie\_J\_Godschalk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/arie_j_godschalk/32/63027_2.png) [@Arie\_J\_Godschalk](https://community.homey.app/u/Arie_J_Godschalk)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2022, 2:54pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-chronograph-adds-precise-timer-stopwatch-and-transition-functionality-to-homey/18214/300 "2022-10-26T14:54:46Z")

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Okay, i think this is a bug, but i would need to knwo from users:  
Right now, when you adjust a timer/countdown/transition, it actually doesn’t work as i think it should: it sets the adjusted time plus the current duration: which makes it “finished”?  
I find it weird.

But, I think you want to “reset” the active time to 4 hours again?

I don’t see currently how that can be done with a signle card, or you need to stop the timer first (straings):

This flow works:

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/0/0/005111e63a6b3eec0f67f7248222f4afabeb8b9a.png)

```auto
[TEF:FLOWS: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]

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**Author:** ![Arie\_J\_Godschalk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/arie_j_godschalk/32/63027_2.png) [@Arie\_J\_Godschalk](https://community.homey.app/u/Arie_J_Godschalk)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2022, 6:32pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-chronograph-adds-precise-timer-stopwatch-and-transition-functionality-to-homey/18214/301 "2022-10-26T18:32:28Z")

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# The [new Buttons](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-chronograph-adds-precise-timer-stopwatch-and-transition-functionality-to-homey/18214/291) are in [Test](https://homey.app/a/nl.fellownet.chronograph/test/) right now!

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/b/5/b575effd0e56b0cb15a6fad904fff11ded496820.png)

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/a/b/ab1fe173ae11f34f1d430095b248dd7c34d2f816.png)

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/7/e/7e69a061a42e4423682254044975adaf0767ebe9.png)

### Please let me know how do feel/work and if all is okay with the buttons and devices!

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**Post date:** [October 26, 2022, 7:31pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-chronograph-adds-precise-timer-stopwatch-and-transition-functionality-to-homey/18214/302 "2022-10-26T19:31:50Z")

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Arie, about the ‘extend timer duration cards’,  
The card description is using a reversed explanation.  
(With timer cards I also mean the stopwatch and transition cards.)

 ![Screenshot_20221026-212442_Chrome](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/6/e/6e79b54ff7e6fe3fe93dfe86347bb318b11791a0.jpeg)

It should read imho:  
_Use this card to adjust the duration of the timer with the provided name.  
Positive value: shortens the duration;  
Negative value: extends the duration.  
Exmpl: adjust a running 5 minutes timer which has 60s left  
with 50: remaining duration = 60 - 50=10s  
with -50: remaining duration =60 - -50=110s_

> [@\[APP\]\[Pro\] Chronograph - Adds precise timer, stopwatch and transition functionality to Homey](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-chronograph-adds-precise-timer-stopwatch-and-transition-functionality-to-homey/18214/224):
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> The app is looking for a new developer to take over. Please spread the word!

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**Post date:** [October 26, 2022, 7:38pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-chronograph-adds-precise-timer-stopwatch-and-transition-functionality-to-homey/18214/303 "2022-10-26T19:38:37Z")

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> [@Peter\_Kawa](#):
>
> It should read imho:  
> _Use this card to adjust the duration of the timer with the provided name.  
> Positive value: shortens the duration;  
> Negative value: extends the duration._

Yes, i think this explains a lot 🙂

I wish i could change this, but since it would break existing functionality, i’ll update the Hint.

I think this also goes for the transition cards, right?  
Only the stopwatch is correct about the Hint.

If transition is also wrong in your eyes, i’ll change it Peter!

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**Post date:** [October 26, 2022, 7:46pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-chronograph-adds-precise-timer-stopwatch-and-transition-functionality-to-homey/18214/304 "2022-10-26T19:46:55Z")

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Wasn’t finished yet 😉😆  
Yes I meant to edit the card’s hint!  
I expect the same goes for stopwatches and transitions, but I’d better test it 1st

Also, useful info:  
One can’t extend the duration, when the new duration will be longer than the timer’s _original_ duration  
One can’t shorten the duration, when the new duration will be lower than zero.

Seems logical but it isn’t always clear what the limitations are.  
These limits are also nice to have: imagine you extend a 15 sec oven or heater timer by accident with one _day_ instead of 1 _sec_

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**Author:** ![Arie\_J\_Godschalk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/arie_j_godschalk/32/63027_2.png) [@Arie\_J\_Godschalk](https://community.homey.app/u/Arie_J_Godschalk)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2022, 8:05pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-chronograph-adds-precise-timer-stopwatch-and-transition-functionality-to-homey/18214/305 "2022-10-26T20:05:53Z")

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> [@Peter\_Kawa](#):
>
> One can’t extend the duration, when the new duration will be longer than the timer’s _original_ duration  
> One can’t shorten the duration, when the new duration will be lower than zero.

I’ll add this.

For stopwatches, it’s already correct (it extends the duration).  
It seems this function was build for stopwatches and sub-supported for transitions and timers.

I’ll update the transition and timers.

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**Post date:** [October 26, 2022, 8:13pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-chronograph-adds-precise-timer-stopwatch-and-transition-functionality-to-homey/18214/306 "2022-10-26T20:13:43Z")

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The updated card hints are in Test now.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2022, 12:48am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-chronograph-adds-precise-timer-stopwatch-and-transition-functionality-to-homey/18214/307 "2022-10-27T00:48:38Z")

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> [@Twan\_Veugelers](#):
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> I basically want always have this timer running, unless none of the 3 when values has changed for 4 hours.  
> So how would I create that with the Chronograph timer?

Hey Twan, I felt free to edit your flow so it works like you describe.  
Note the use of “start and _replace_ timer Netatmo”. This resets the timer to its programmed duration value (4 hours) again, when it was still running while a temperature trigger occured.  
When the time’s up, and the Netatmo app has been restarted, the timer is started again.

Also, use exact the same timer name in your timer cards. Not “Netatmo” and “Netatmo Active”.

_Maybe some day @Arie_J_Godschalk can create a dropdown with existing timer names to choose from.  
But there’s a catch: a new timer must run at least one time to get ‘known’. So this idea might be impossible_

 ![Screenshot 2022-10-27 at 02-59-14 1.HomeyPro Peter](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/b/3/b397f4a49dcd8bcda9b9cc1b0a49de368e0d04e2.png)

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**Author:** ![Arie\_J\_Godschalk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/arie_j_godschalk/32/63027_2.png) [@Arie\_J\_Godschalk](https://community.homey.app/u/Arie_J_Godschalk)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2022, 7:43am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-chronograph-adds-precise-timer-stopwatch-and-transition-functionality-to-homey/18214/308 "2022-10-27T07:43:01Z")

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> [@Peter\_Kawa](#):
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> Maybe some day @Arie_J_Godschalk can create a dropdown with existing timer names to choose from.  
> But there’s a catch: a new timer must run at least one time to get ‘known’. So this idea might be impossible

No, that is not really needed, take a look at Advanced Triggers where it is also just read from the given/selected arguments.  
If you have a flow and you save it, the apps gets a noticifation with the arguments you picked.  
And in the dropdownlist that some arguments have; i can return your query/what-you-typed.

This is how Advanced Triggers works, i hope to add it to CountDown (if i may), and now it may look that BetterLogic is gonne get it too…

Stay tuned 😛

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**Author:** ![Twan\_Veugelers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/twan_veugelers/32/129333_2.png) [@Twan\_Veugelers](https://community.homey.app/u/Twan_Veugelers)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2022, 12:27pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-chronograph-adds-precise-timer-stopwatch-and-transition-functionality-to-homey/18214/309 "2022-10-27T12:27:46Z")

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@Peter_Kawa , thank you, that did the trick.

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**Author:** ![Arie\_J\_Godschalk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/arie_j_godschalk/32/63027_2.png) [@Arie\_J\_Godschalk](https://community.homey.app/u/Arie_J_Godschalk)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2022, 12:37pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-chronograph-adds-precise-timer-stopwatch-and-transition-functionality-to-homey/18214/310 "2022-10-27T12:37:44Z")

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> [@Peter\_Kawa](#):
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> But there’s a catch: a new timer must run at least one time to get ‘known’. So this idea might be impossible

There is just one other catch about this: i cannot just change a text-field-argument to a dropdownlist-argument. It will break current flows.  
What i could do tho, is the exact same thing as Advanced Triggers: Show a optional dropdownlist AND a optional textfield. This would keep existing flows intact and also gives the options of a dropdown.

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**Author:** ![Arie\_J\_Godschalk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/arie_j_godschalk/32/63027_2.png) [@Arie\_J\_Godschalk](https://community.homey.app/u/Arie_J_Godschalk)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2022, 12:38pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-chronograph-adds-precise-timer-stopwatch-and-transition-functionality-to-homey/18214/311 "2022-10-27T12:38:21Z")

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> [@Peter\_Kawa](#):
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> Note the use of “start and _replace_ timer Netatmo”.

Funny, i didn’t see that one, i was searching for it below the other one, but it’s on top… Silly me.

And thanks @Peter_Kawa 🙂

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