# \[APP\]\[Pro\] Beacon - Detect your presence with BLE beacons

**URL:** <https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-beacon-detect-your-presence-with-ble-beacons/3550>\
**Category:** Apps\
**Tags:** app, tools, homey-pro\
**Created:** [November 1, 2018, 5:45pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-beacon-detect-your-presence-with-ble-beacons/3550 "2018-11-01T17:45:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Quakerix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/quakerix/32/10155_2.png) [@Quakerix](https://community.homey.app/u/Quakerix)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 10:22am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-beacon-detect-your-presence-with-ble-beacons/3550/743 "2021-09-23T10:22:03Z")

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Hi,

I have the situation that (since the upgrade) the beacons (tile pro) go offline and go online within a few seconds. I wanted to increase the discovery timeout from 20 → 30. But if i do that via the mobile app. The save button doesn’t allow me to save it. I change the value to 30, click save, go back and click “configure app” again. And the value is back to 20.

Am I doing something wrong?

Same issue via [Homey Developer Tools](https://tools.developer.homey.app/tools/app-settings). There the button isn’t even clickable.

i’m on 1.3.1

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 11:14am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-beacon-detect-your-presence-with-ble-beacons/3550/744 "2021-09-23T11:14:31Z")

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Hey Q,

It’s all here in this topic.  
To get you going:

Beacon flows and settings

> [@\[APP\]\[Pro\] Beacon - Detect your presence with BLE beacons](https://community.homey.app/t/beacon-an-app-for-presence-detection-using-ble-beacons/3550/716):
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> Thanks! It’s a bit funny how Athom’s “improvements” sometimes makes things worse. I have 4 flows for 1 beacon (no door (lock) check) to make it work for me. Including timers, away/home status conditions. But t.b.h. the timers make no sense anymore, while false positives happen just a few times a day. It’s a wireless protocol, I know, and “misfires” can happen too. Only with confirmation push messages I can prevent my home from switching home/away when it shouldn’t. Flows: Back home [https:…](https://homey.app/f/mQu-eH)

Settings and explanations / limitations from Athom

> [@\[APP\]\[Pro\] Beacon - Detect your presence with BLE beacons](https://community.homey.app/t/beacon-an-app-for-presence-detection-using-ble-beacons/3550/711):
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> Hi Leendert, the bug should be fixed @ v7.0.0, but the false positives still occur a few times a day… the beacons were lying on a fixed spot and didn’t move. I can’t discover a pattern either. Any thoughts? Any hints for proper batteries anyone? I’m aware that using no-name (Grundig) discounter models can be a negative factor. FW v7.1.0 Beacon v1.3.2 test

> [@\[APP\]\[Pro\] Beacon - Detect your presence with BLE beacons](https://community.homey.app/t/beacon-an-app-for-presence-detection-using-ble-beacons/3550/712):
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> The issue is fixed. Only the new firmware uses a fixed discovery time. (It was configurable). That is the reason why there are discovery failures. Besides that athom add a cache layer that holds the discovered devices for some time. I cannot make any improvements besides asking athom to change the mechanism.

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**Author:** ![Quakerix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/quakerix/32/10155_2.png) [@Quakerix](https://community.homey.app/u/Quakerix)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2021, 6:09pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-beacon-detect-your-presence-with-ble-beacons/3550/745 "2021-09-26T18:09:26Z")

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Thanks; but what I yet don’t understand is that the issue in firmware was resolved in 7.0.0.

So why wouldn’t I be able to modify the value? And why is the value not set to read only if it can be modified?

And how do you guys resolve your false positives. On 4.x it was working perfectly.

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**Author:** ![Koktail](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/koktail/32/51498_2.png) [@Koktail](https://community.homey.app/u/Koktail)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2021, 6:40pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-beacon-detect-your-presence-with-ble-beacons/3550/746 "2021-09-26T18:40:55Z")

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You are asking the questions to the wrong side.

I can imagine that the discovery time-out of 10 seconds normally should be enough and that it is a performance optimization to block that setting.

The caching layer is a performance optimization to and it’s logical when you consider the normal use cases. The beacon app is using this mechanism to determine devices to be in range.

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**Author:** ![Piero\_F](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/piero_f/32/22759_2.png) [@Piero\_F](https://community.homey.app/u/Piero_F)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 11:47am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-beacon-detect-your-presence-with-ble-beacons/3550/747 "2021-10-15T11:47:49Z")

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I did some test with the new Homey firmware v7.1.5.  
Athom has internally extended the BLE discovery interval from 5 seconds to 10 seconds. This is good news as a longer interval increases the likelihood of a beacon being discovered and, therefore, the BLE presence reliability. No changes to Beacon app are required.

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**Author:** ![I\_am\_who](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/i_am_who/32/19571_2.png) [@I\_am\_who](https://community.homey.app/u/I_am_who)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2021, 6:08pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-beacon-detect-your-presence-with-ble-beacons/3550/748 "2021-10-17T18:08:56Z")

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Still get wrong readings, they are less than before though. . Any idea on good settings to get better results?

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**Author:** ![victoroos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/victoroos/32/8344_2.png) [@victoroos](https://community.homey.app/u/victoroos)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 10:44am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-beacon-detect-your-presence-with-ble-beacons/3550/749 "2021-10-18T10:44:45Z")

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Well. It would be nice if we can set the interval on the app to 10 seconds as well… It doesn’t save now

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**Author:** ![victoroos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/victoroos/32/8344_2.png) [@victoroos](https://community.homey.app/u/victoroos)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 1:02pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-beacon-detect-your-presence-with-ble-beacons/3550/750 "2021-10-18T13:02:56Z")

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How do you ask for a yes or no? I don’t have that option I think on my android app

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 4:13pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-beacon-detect-your-presence-with-ble-beacons/3550/751 "2021-10-18T16:13:14Z")

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In the Homey app, in the Flow editor:  
at the And section, add a cart, go to “Push Notifications” and select “Send a push acknowledgement”  
Then pick a user who has to answer the question, and enter your question in the field below.

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**Author:** ![Koktail](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/koktail/32/51498_2.png) [@Koktail](https://community.homey.app/u/Koktail)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 4:49pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-beacon-detect-your-presence-with-ble-beacons/3550/752 "2021-10-18T16:49:33Z")

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That’s a bug. I’ll have a look at it. Maybe you can set it in the web version for now (developer page).

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 11:07pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-beacon-detect-your-presence-with-ble-beacons/3550/753 "2021-10-21T23:07:10Z")

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> [@I\_am\_who](#):
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> Still get wrong readings, they are less than before though. . Any idea on good settings to get better results?

I couldn’t eliminate a daily handful false positives too, therefore I added an additional ‘wait’ timer.  
My app config settings are `15 / 1 / 5`.  
App version = 1.3.2  
Homey v7.1.5

So the ‘wait’ timer should exceed 5 x 15=75s;  
I’ve set it to 80s ( _\> increase for less false positives_).

**Flow 1:**  
When…  
-Beacon Out of range  
And…  
-Beacon “detected” is NO  
Then…  
-Start or replace timer of 80s  
Else… (if the beacon is detected in range within 80s)  
-Hold / pause timer

**Flow 2:**  
When…  
-Wait timer has finished  
And…  
-Logics “Beacon-Guest is equal to YES/TRUE” (_optional: just a variable I set_)  
Then…  
-Logics “Set Beacon-Guest is equal to NO/FALSE” (_optional_)  
-Switch Virtual light device “Beacon Guest” OFF (just a status indicator for dash)

**Flow 3:**  
When…  
-Beacon is within range  
And…  
-Logics “Beacon-Guest is equal to NO/FALSE” (_optional: just a variable I set_)  
-Wait timer does not run  
Then…  
-Logics “Set Beacon-Guest to YES/TRUE” (_optional_)  
-Switch Virtual light device “Beacon Guest” ON (just a status indicator for dash)

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**Author:** ![Paul\_Scholte](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/paul_scholte/32/16562_2.png) [@Paul\_Scholte](https://community.homey.app/u/Paul_Scholte)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 9:59am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-beacon-detect-your-presence-with-ble-beacons/3550/754 "2021-10-22T09:59:40Z")

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My settings are 15/1/20. I use Tile 2008 beacons. Hardly any false positives. App version 1.3.2  
regards,  
Paul

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**Author:** ![Automansion](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/automansion/32/45899_2.png) [@Automansion](https://community.homey.app/u/Automansion)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2021, 11:22am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-beacon-detect-your-presence-with-ble-beacons/3550/755 "2021-10-24T11:22:20Z")

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Hi! I didn’t find definite info about the Chipolo One in this thread. I got one anyway, and got it to work like this, FWIW:

- First tried adding it directly to Beacon, but Homey couldn’t find it.
- Then installed the Android Chipolo app and added it there, working fine.
- Then killed the app. Don’t know if this is a required step, but I don’t need the app.
- Then tried adding the Chipolo to Homey again. Now it could finally find it as an “iBeacon” device. Seems to work fine now.

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**Author:** ![Koktail](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/koktail/32/51498_2.png) [@Koktail](https://community.homey.app/u/Koktail)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2021, 1:14pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-beacon-detect-your-presence-with-ble-beacons/3550/756 "2021-10-24T13:14:40Z")

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I just released v1.3.3 to test:

### v1.3.3 - 24.10.2021

- Fixed bug: Settings cannot be saved

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**Author:** ![Gmaster](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gmaster/32/36968_2.png) [@Gmaster](https://community.homey.app/u/Gmaster)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2021, 6:19pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-beacon-detect-your-presence-with-ble-beacons/3550/757 "2021-10-24T18:19:12Z")

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For a week now I’m trying to add a new beacon. The old one was worn-out. So when I press on the plus button and select the beacon app there are tiles with a loading motion. See screenshot

 ![IMG_2733.PNG](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/4/6/46758f88af865065436615b667996a7dd27b3ed7.jpeg)

Can someone help me?

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**Author:** ![victoroos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/victoroos/32/8344_2.png) [@victoroos](https://community.homey.app/u/victoroos)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2021, 9:45am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-beacon-detect-your-presence-with-ble-beacons/3550/758 "2021-10-25T09:45:13Z")

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Fixed for me! but still false positives

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**Author:** ![victoroos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/victoroos/32/8344_2.png) [@victoroos](https://community.homey.app/u/victoroos)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2021, 6:35am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-beacon-detect-your-presence-with-ble-beacons/3550/759 "2021-10-26T06:35:09Z")

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what kind of wires did you add there on the top? 😮

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**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2021, 6:38am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-beacon-detect-your-presence-with-ble-beacons/3550/760 "2021-10-26T06:38:28Z")

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Two DS18S20 temperature sensors 😃

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/4/e/4e5e99408622238b7e08f0f53721e8d67ee14e1f.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![victoroos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/victoroos/32/8344_2.png) [@victoroos](https://community.homey.app/u/victoroos)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2021, 6:42am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-beacon-detect-your-presence-with-ble-beacons/3550/761 "2021-10-26T06:42:20Z")

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so many possibilities, what did you do to me? Now I have projects again…

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**Author:** ![Arbo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/arbo/32/86038_2.png) [@Arbo](https://community.homey.app/u/Arbo)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2021, 9:19am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-beacon-detect-your-presence-with-ble-beacons/3550/762 "2021-10-26T09:19:21Z")

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Will this app come available for the Homey Bridge?

Best Regards,  
Arjan

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