# \[APP\] Netatmo - Same home, just smarter. (by Athom)

**URL:** <https://community.homey.app/t/app-netatmo-same-home-just-smarter-by-athom/360>\
**Category:** Apps\
**Tags:** app\
**Created:** [August 24, 2018, 9:01am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-netatmo-same-home-just-smarter-by-athom/360 "2018-08-24T09:01:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Steven\_Bareman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/steven_bareman/32/31404_2.png) [@Steven\_Bareman](https://community.homey.app/u/Steven_Bareman)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2022, 7:08pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-netatmo-same-home-just-smarter-by-athom/360/239 "2022-05-17T19:08:42Z")

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Yes, still working here!

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**Author:** ![Sharkys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/sharkys/32/54029_2.png) [@Sharkys](https://community.homey.app/u/Sharkys)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2022, 12:59pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-netatmo-same-home-just-smarter-by-athom/360/240 "2022-05-27T12:59:47Z")

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So based on my finding seems this trigger (Know face detected) do not work if :

- you disabled recording for particular person (it’s OK though to have recording eg. On arrival)

Beware if you use also Netatmo location assistant, such person would never leave after timeout (eg. due to the given phone still at house), so you need to disable this eg. in case you would like to detect wake/sleep state.

It’s a pity it’s not mentioned anywhere.

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**Author:** ![Sharkys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/sharkys/32/54029_2.png) [@Sharkys](https://community.homey.app/u/Sharkys)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2022, 9:52am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-netatmo-same-home-just-smarter-by-athom/360/241 "2022-08-04T09:52:48Z")

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…suprise :

```auto
Dear Netatmo developer,

To improve the security of our products, we inform you that the Client Credentials grant type method will be completely removed. It will no longer be possible to authenticate with the username and password of the user.

The effective date of this update is October 2022.

How can you authenticate with Netatmo API ?
From this date, the OAuth2 authorization code flow must be followed for authentication.

```

> **[Netatmo Connect | Authentication](https://dev.netatmo.com/apidocumentation/oauth#authorization-code)**
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> We want to create a smarter home. With Netatmo connect, creative people can imagine solutions to make users' life easier.
> Netatmo products are ready to communicate with all Apps and services to fit your vision of what makes a home...

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**Author:** ![Caseda](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/caseda/32/138695_2.png) [@Caseda](https://community.homey.app/u/Caseda)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2022, 5:52pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-netatmo-same-home-just-smarter-by-athom/360/242 "2022-08-04T17:52:40Z")

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Athom already uses Oauth2 for some time now (at least 2 years) for this app, so nothing will break.

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**Author:** ![Sharkys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/sharkys/32/54029_2.png) [@Sharkys](https://community.homey.app/u/Sharkys)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 8:36am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-netatmo-same-home-just-smarter-by-athom/360/243 "2023-03-09T08:36:15Z")

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# Suspension of IFTTT services for your Security products

[https://helpcenter.netatmo.com/hc/en-us/articles/10399640934290](https://helpcenter.netatmo.com/hc/en-us/articles/10399640934290)

(eg. I was using Everyone left trigger via IFTTT)

A pity such functionality doesn’t exist in the official app, including light control for outdoor cameras…

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**Author:** ![Steven\_Bareman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/steven_bareman/32/31404_2.png) [@Steven\_Bareman](https://community.homey.app/u/Steven_Bareman)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 6:02pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-netatmo-same-home-just-smarter-by-athom/360/244 "2023-03-09T18:02:29Z")

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Unfortunately, do not assume that the Homey app will be updated with possible new functions. 😒  
I have literally been trying to convince Athom for 2 years to add the “new” modulating thermostat.  
And adjust the app to adjust the radiator knobs in connection with the temperature. that these now give “error” in combination with the relay / bridge for the modulating thermostat

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**Author:** ![Sharkys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/sharkys/32/54029_2.png) [@Sharkys](https://community.homey.app/u/Sharkys)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 6:13pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-netatmo-same-home-just-smarter-by-athom/360/245 "2023-03-09T18:13:31Z")

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Well, once I have convinced them to add Doorbel and that time the API hasn’t been official yet 🙂

But generally I know what you mean ☹

Unfortunately Netatmo is not interested to take this over neither

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**Author:** ![Steven\_Bareman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/steven_bareman/32/31404_2.png) [@Steven\_Bareman](https://community.homey.app/u/Steven_Bareman)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2023, 4:36pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-netatmo-same-home-just-smarter-by-athom/360/246 "2023-03-11T16:36:22Z")

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The last message I’ve had from Athom is that they are negotiating with Netatmo to take over the app (but that’s the 2nd time I’ve heard this in 2 years time)

Now, I don’t know if this would be any progress, by the way! Netatmo itself is not super fast with development or support either…

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**Author:** ![Sharkys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/sharkys/32/54029_2.png) [@Sharkys](https://community.homey.app/u/Sharkys)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2023, 5:08pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-netatmo-same-home-just-smarter-by-athom/360/247 "2023-03-11T17:08:25Z")

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I have asked Netatmo directly and they confirmed, 6 months ago?, that not. Best would be to have it taken over by community developer, as Homey platform have the best community developers from all the platforms 🙂

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**Author:** ![Steven\_Bareman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/steven_bareman/32/31404_2.png) [@Steven\_Bareman](https://community.homey.app/u/Steven_Bareman)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2023, 6:33pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-netatmo-same-home-just-smarter-by-athom/360/248 "2023-03-11T18:33:20Z")

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That’s true! Let’s hope there is a volunteer who wants to develop this… 🤞

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**Author:** ![John-Erling](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/john-erling/32/56438_2.png) [@John-Erling](https://community.homey.app/u/John-Erling)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2023, 3:55pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-netatmo-same-home-just-smarter-by-athom/360/249 "2023-03-23T15:55:36Z")

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I wish there would be an available trigger for the Netatmo Smart Doorbell when it detects motion, so that I could use it to trigger lights outside when someone is at the door. The doorbell does detect motion, and through HomeKit it sends push notifications to our phones whenever there is movement. So I guess the functionality is there.

Also, another Netatmo request, would be to get «And»-cards for the Weather Station. Like «WHEN time is 12:00 AND temperature is 12 degrees». Currently you can only do «WHEN temperature is 12 degrees …» (as far as I can see).

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**Author:** ![Sharkys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/sharkys/32/54029_2.png) [@Sharkys](https://community.homey.app/u/Sharkys)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2023, 4:56pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-netatmo-same-home-just-smarter-by-athom/360/250 "2023-03-23T16:56:56Z")

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> [@John-Erling](#):
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> Doorbell when it detects motion

You can try contacting them via Support pages - I didn’t know however this is supported by API… I gues it is not?

> [@John-Erling](#):
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> Like «WHEN time is 12:00 AND temperature is 12 degrees».

That’s possible already, just combination of two conditions

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**Author:** ![AHansen7](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ahansen7/32/69406_2.png) [@AHansen7](https://community.homey.app/u/AHansen7)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2023, 10:02am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-netatmo-same-home-just-smarter-by-athom/360/251 "2023-04-29T10:02:39Z")

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Is it not possible to connect more than one Netatmo Weather Station to Homey? I use Homey Bridge with subcription (newest version), as my Homey Pro haven’t arrived yet.

I bought a second Weather Station because the Outdoor Module broke on the first Weather Station, that I have had for many years. It’s all setup nicely in the Netatmo app - no problems there.

But I cannot get the new Station added to Homey. The first is setup just fine. I use it in flows.

When adding new device, Homey says that devices have been found, but the list is empty. I cannot choose which devices to add and after a while this message appears:  
“SendMessageToApp(Com.netatmo)Timeout after 15000ms”

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**Author:** ![Caseda](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/caseda/32/138695_2.png) [@Caseda](https://community.homey.app/u/Caseda)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2023, 10:32am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-netatmo-same-home-just-smarter-by-athom/360/252 "2023-04-29T10:32:38Z")

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Can I be curious why you didn’t buy the outdoor sensor separately? as they do offer them separate and makes it way cheaper and you can still connect them to the main station as long as you delete the old one first.

And there is also only 1 version of Homey Bridge (which isn’t necessary for the Netatmo weather station BTW), so I guess everyone has the newest version 🤔.

But don’t think they ever thought of people trying to connect a second weather station to Homey (Cloud nor Pro), so you’ll have to contact Athom which are the creators of the app, to add support for multiple weather stations.

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**Author:** ![AHansen7](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ahansen7/32/69406_2.png) [@AHansen7](https://community.homey.app/u/AHansen7)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2023, 10:48am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-netatmo-same-home-just-smarter-by-athom/360/253 "2023-04-29T10:48:15Z")

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Where I live it’s not possible to buy the outdoor module seperately. Neither from the Netatmo homepage. I think you confuse it with additional indoor modules. And one Weather Station only supports three additional indoor modules, so it is not that odd to have more than one, if you have a large house with many rooms. But yes, maybe they didn’t add the support for multiple weather stations. Hence the question…

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**Author:** ![Caseda](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/caseda/32/138695_2.png) [@Caseda](https://community.homey.app/u/Caseda)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2023, 11:01am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-netatmo-same-home-just-smarter-by-athom/360/254 "2023-04-29T11:01:36Z")

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Naah, definitely didn’t confuse with that.  
Have a netatmo weather station myself, hence why I questioned not to buy a separate outdoor sensor as that is what I did after mine broke.  
But there are just **way** cheaper options then buying 2/3 weather stations (€159 per set + €69 for any additional indoor modules without it being on clearance) to get all rooms in your house measured (most only care about temperature, humidity and luminescence), especially if you have a Homey (Bridge) (and soon Pro)

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**Author:** ![AHansen7](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ahansen7/32/69406_2.png) [@AHansen7](https://community.homey.app/u/AHansen7)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2023, 12:25pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-netatmo-same-home-just-smarter-by-athom/360/255 "2023-04-29T12:25:12Z")

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I appreciate you’re trying to help, but you have gone off-topic. I didn’t ask for advice on which devices to buy. I just want know whether or not it is possible to add a second Netatmo Weather Station to Homey. That’s it.

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**Author:** ![Dijker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Dijker](https://community.homey.app/u/Dijker)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2023, 1:15pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-netatmo-same-home-just-smarter-by-athom/360/256 "2023-04-29T13:15:43Z")

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Guess you have to ask NetAtmo as it isn’t possible to add multiple Weather stations to one NetAtmo Account. You can however add multiple Presence (aka Smart outdoor Cams) to one NetAtmo Account. Not sure if that is limited, but you can add them all that way to Homey. (So not a Homey App Limitation)

And Yes another way would be to enable to connect multiple NetAtmo Accounts to Homey but that is imho a silly workaround as both company’s define a sort of One Account for One Home…

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**Author:** ![AHansen7](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ahansen7/32/69406_2.png) [@AHansen7](https://community.homey.app/u/AHansen7)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2023, 2:14pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-netatmo-same-home-just-smarter-by-athom/360/257 "2023-04-29T14:14:56Z")

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Thank you for your reply Dijker.  
It is possible to add at least two Weather Stations to same Netatmo account. That’s what I have, and it works fine. In fact there is no limit as per [stated here](https://helpcenter.netatmo.com/hc/en-us/articles/360022629792-How-many-Smart-Home-Weather-Stations-can-I-add-per-account-).  
I have asked the question to Homey Support, but hoped to get a quicker answer in this forum. But no worries, I will just await the answer from Homey Support.

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**Author:** ![Dijker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Dijker](https://community.homey.app/u/Dijker)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2023, 2:44pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/app-netatmo-same-home-just-smarter-by-athom/360/258 "2023-04-29T14:44:51Z")

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> [@AHansen7](#):
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> That’s what I have, and it works fine. In fact there is no limit as per [stated here](https://helpcenter.netatmo.com/hc/en-us/articles/360022629792-How-many-Smart-Home-Weather-Stations-can-I-add-per-account-).

Ok, Thanks!  
guess that is changed somewhere, didn’t notice it!  
then it is up to Athom.

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