# Any UK Homey Jedi’s willing to initial help a Newbie?:)... please **URL:** \ **Category:** Questions & Help\ **Created:** [June 27, 2019, 6:44am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/any-uk-homey-jedi-s-willing-to-initial-help-a-newbie-please/14879 "2019-06-27T06:44:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Latin105fm](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/latin105fm/32/12583_2.png) [@Latin105fm](https://community.homey.app/u/Latin105fm)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2019, 6:44am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/any-uk-homey-jedi-s-willing-to-initial-help-a-newbie-please/14879/1 "2019-06-27T06:44:50Z")
Hi people. I’ve had my Honey Pro for about 2 months now but not done anything with it as I just can’t find the basic starter flow info I need. I’ve found the Page with some basic stuff but doesn’t really cover what I need: like setting up Alexa to action commands, like turning lights on and off. Telling Alexa to set Philips Hue Scene. Playing a welcome message on SONOS when someone comes home. Etc etc ANY help would be truly appreciated as I am so excited to get this going but frustrated that I’m not finding the basics to start and learn. Thanks in advance Daniel ---
**Author:** ![Jamie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jamie/32/5274_2.png) [@Jamie](https://community.homey.app/u/Jamie)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2019, 5:17pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/any-uk-homey-jedi-s-willing-to-initial-help-a-newbie-please/14879/2 "2019-06-27T17:17:10Z")
Have you had a look at the following, I am bias but I would[recommend this tutorial.](https://community.homey.app/t/beginner-smart-porch-light-tutorial/4512). It may seem over whelming, but all flows are created pretty much exactly the same. And once you get the hang of it by doing a couple - its dead easy. If there are any specific questions you have - let us know. * * * Other Flow Tutorials > [@\[Beginner\] Smart Porch Light Tutorial](https://community.homey.app/t/beginner-smart-porch-light-tutorial/4512): > > Smart Porch Light Difficulty : Beginner With Homey you can easily automate you’re home lights, you can see an example of this [here](https://community.homey.app/t/simple-light-switch-example/47). In the following examples we are going to take a light and step by step update our flow to turn it into an automated light. While these examples are simple, the same concepts are used for almost any flow you will create in the future. We will be covering : [{when} + {then}](https://community.homey.app/t/beginner-smart-porch-light-example/4512/2)[{then}x2](https://community.homey.app/t/beginner-smart-porch-light-example/4512/3)[{and}](https://community.homey.app/t/beginner-smart-porch-light-example/4512/4)[{or}](https://community.homey.app/t/beginner-smart-porch-light-example/4512/5)[{else}](https://community.homey.app/t/beginner-smart-porch-light-example/4512/6)[{then} -\> [delay]](https://community.homey.app/t/beginner-smart-porch-light-example/4512/7) > [@\[Simple\] Lights turning on/off based on motion](https://community.homey.app/t/simple-lights-turning-on-off-based-on-motion/10889): > > Simple flow for turning lights on and off based on motion What to use Timer app. In this case i used [the Countdown app](https://apps.athom.com/app/nl.bevlogenheid.countdown) Motion sensor. Used a Neo Coolcam pir v1 in this case. A light to switch on and off. Used a Fibaro Dimmer2 in this case to turn a “dumb bulb”. Start making the timer We click more/apps/Countdown. Then we click configure app. Here we make the timer. Choose a name for your timer. In this case i used “Badkamer” Click “Add timer” Start making the flows In this case i used… > [@Get a notification on your phone on battery level change](https://community.homey.app/t/get-a-notification-on-your-phone-on-battery-level-change/8973): > > How to get a notification when battery level changed for a device. With just 1 flow you can get a notification on your phone with info for when the battery status of a device is changed and came below a certain percentage. This way you can act fast and change the battery of that device. What to use Homey with the 2.0.x firmware installed. One or more battery powered devices. Start making the flow. First we make the trigger part: We click “Devices” and select “A sensor’s value changed”. A… > [@How to use tags in a flow](https://community.homey.app/t/how-to-use-tags-in-a-flow/9285): > > How to use tags in a flow on 2.0.x There are a lot of questions about using the tags in the 2.0.x firmware of Homey. So here i give you a simple explanation of using tags in 2.0.x. We start with the WHEN part When making a flow you select a device in the WHEN part of the flow. In this example i used a Fibaro plug. When selecting the device you get the option to choose “The power changed” f.e. When clicked you will see the tag(s) coming with this card. We gonna use that tag later, no need in… * * * Other info > **[Homey - A Better Smart Home](https://homey.app/en-us/#section-flow)** > > Create a better smart home with Homey. Control, automate and monitor your entire smart home from a single place. Homey supports 50,000+ devices from thousands of brands. [https://support.athom.com/hc/en-us](https://support.athom.com/hc/en-us) > **[Homey - A Better Smart Home](https://homey.app/en-us/)** > > Create a better smart home with Homey. Control, automate and monitor your entire smart home from a single place. Homey supports 50,000+ devices from thousands of brands. [https://blog.athom.com/](https://blog.athom.com/) ---
**Author:** ![anon2681894](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@anon2681894](https://community.homey.app/u/anon2681894)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 11:59am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/any-uk-homey-jedi-s-willing-to-initial-help-a-newbie-please/14879/3 "2019-06-28T11:59:17Z")
didn’t know you are a Jedi @Jamie and from the UK ?? ---
**Author:** ![Neuron44](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/neuron44/32/9492_2.png) [@Neuron44](https://community.homey.app/u/Neuron44)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 2:59pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/any-uk-homey-jedi-s-willing-to-initial-help-a-newbie-please/14879/4 "2019-06-28T14:59:07Z")
Never underestimate @Jamie 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Welshsmarthome](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Welshsmarthome](https://community.homey.app/u/Welshsmarthome)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2024, 10:43pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/any-uk-homey-jedi-s-willing-to-initial-help-a-newbie-please/14879/5 "2024-12-27T22:43:51Z")
Looking for help with a flow too. Love the guides but still a little lost Im brand new to Homey this week. Ive got a kitchen larder unit with 2 doors. 2 aqara open close sensors and a zigbee socket. Ive got an LED strip in the unti and ive made a flow so that when either door opens, the socket turns on and so the LED strip lights up. What i want to add to that flow is that when the doors close the sockets turns off. I got added into the flow “and then when door closes, light goes off”. however, if only one of the door was open the light would come on and then immediately off. I figured its because the ruler is seeing that even though one door is open, the other is closed so immediately runs the closed. So i know i needed to add an “iff all doors closed” turn off the light. However for the life of me i cant get this to work and cant figure out how the when/all functions. So basically Door (either or both) open. Light on. When both doors close. Light off. Can that be done in one flow please? Thanks in advance ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2024, 1:07am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/any-uk-homey-jedi-s-willing-to-initial-help-a-newbie-please/14879/6 "2024-12-28T01:07:38Z")
It’s possible using an advanced flow ![1000000263](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/7/a/7a22c7147e7f158b48799813098209786f9929e3.jpeg) The tags used with the “AND equal to Y/N” logics cards are from _the other door_: ![1000000259](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/2/9/29e2e5457902869c3654e77181a2405d860300f0.jpeg) So, this acts like: Door A closes, AND door B is closed \> turn off light ---
**Author:** ![Welshsmarthome](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Welshsmarthome](https://community.homey.app/u/Welshsmarthome)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2024, 10:56am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/any-uk-homey-jedi-s-willing-to-initial-help-a-newbie-please/14879/7 "2024-12-28T10:56:25Z")
Awesome thanks. Ill have a go Right sorry ive missed something. Still learning. So is this all one advanced flow. So when any door opens the light comes on but then when both doors close the light goes off? Or do i need to make one flow to turn on and then another flow to turn off? This is mine. ![Image 28-12-2024 at 11.53](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/8/9/896d3d9db9394dffc8268fc9ba0253b64046ffe4.jpeg) When i run the test function. It works. When i open any door the light comes on but then wont turn off when i close them both! Cant see what im missing now 🤣 Thanks in advance ---
**Author:** ![SunBeech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/sunbeech/32/111391_2.png) [@SunBeech](https://community.homey.app/u/SunBeech)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2024, 12:32pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/any-uk-homey-jedi-s-willing-to-initial-help-a-newbie-please/14879/8 "2024-12-28T12:32:17Z")
The second part of your flow, after the initial ‘turn on’ action, will never result in a ‘turn off’ action. You’ll need to split up the flow. The second flow is triggered when the contact alarm turns off (one trigger for each sensor). You can then check if the other contact sensor is also turned off. If so, switch off the light. ---
**Author:** ![Welshsmarthome](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Welshsmarthome](https://community.homey.app/u/Welshsmarthome)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2024, 3:37pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/any-uk-homey-jedi-s-willing-to-initial-help-a-newbie-please/14879/9 "2024-12-28T15:37:06Z")
🤣 So like this? ![Image 28-12-2024 at 15.36](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/9/8/980c3fa7f795b8c3a9e04d324572d6ab3f7a6c9c.jpeg) Still cant get it to turn off when both doors closed! ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2024, 3:54pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/any-uk-homey-jedi-s-willing-to-initial-help-a-newbie-please/14879/10 "2024-12-28T15:54:53Z")
Almost. It’s just like I showed you already? The ‘top’ flow = light on Then you can use the ‘middle’ flow OR the ‘lower’ flow as light off flow: > [@Peter\_Kawa](#): > > ![1000000263](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/7/a/7a22c7147e7f158b48799813098209786f9929e3.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Wim\_Post](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/wim_post/32/56793_2.png) [@Wim\_Post](https://community.homey.app/u/Wim_Post)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2024, 3:57pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/any-uk-homey-jedi-s-willing-to-initial-help-a-newbie-please/14879/11 "2024-12-28T15:57:05Z")
WHEN the contact alarm turned off (door larder left) AND the contact alarm is off (not on) (door larder right) THEN Turn off light. WHEN the contact alarm turned off (door larder right) AND the contact alarm is off (not on) (door larder left) THEN Turn off light. PS you doorsensor has a AND-card ‘The contact alarm is on’ Peter Kawa;s sensor hasn’t so he is using a Logic-AND-card with variable ‘contact alarm’ ---
**Author:** ![Welshsmarthome](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Welshsmarthome](https://community.homey.app/u/Welshsmarthome)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2024, 7:52am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/any-uk-homey-jedi-s-willing-to-initial-help-a-newbie-please/14879/12 "2024-12-29T07:52:49Z")
I made mine look exactly like this. Still wont turn off when closed. I have checked the devices and the contact alarms work as they should ---
**Author:** ![Welshsmarthome](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Welshsmarthome](https://community.homey.app/u/Welshsmarthome)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2024, 7:53am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/any-uk-homey-jedi-s-willing-to-initial-help-a-newbie-please/14879/13 "2024-12-29T07:53:22Z")
If i use And i cant select contact alarm is off. Only lets me select on! Feel so dumb. I can totally understand the logic i just cant make it work! ---
**Author:** ![FKey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/fkey/32/14793_2.png) [@FKey](https://community.homey.app/u/FKey)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2024, 8:15am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/any-uk-homey-jedi-s-willing-to-initial-help-a-newbie-please/14879/14 "2024-12-29T08:15:53Z")
> [@Welshsmarthome](#): > > i cant select contact alarm is off. Only lets me select on! For many cards: After creating a flow card you can right click it and invert the action. > [@Welshsmarthome](#): > > Still cant get it to turn off when both doors closed! Check your flow… The bottom flow only has the “Larder rigth” in the IF cards (twice) And you only added just one AND card checking the contact, so you only check one of the two doors Build it the same way @Peter_Kawa showed: - 2 IF cards, one for Larder left one for larder right - Two AND cards , one for Larder left one for larder right You will get there 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Welshsmarthome](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Welshsmarthome](https://community.homey.app/u/Welshsmarthome)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2024, 5:40pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/any-uk-homey-jedi-s-willing-to-initial-help-a-newbie-please/14879/15 "2024-12-30T17:40:08Z")
Figured it out in the end! It confused me that the flows were stacked. I thought they would all need to “flow” into each other. Thanks all for your help. Im sure ive still much to learn 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2024, 6:19pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/any-uk-homey-jedi-s-willing-to-initial-help-a-newbie-please/14879/16 "2024-12-30T18:19:39Z")
Ah I see! Didn’t realize that detail is not clear. So, an advanced flow can contain an “unlimited” number of separate flows on one “canvas”. ---
**Author:** ![Welshsmarthome](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Welshsmarthome](https://community.homey.app/u/Welshsmarthome)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 7:11am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/any-uk-homey-jedi-s-willing-to-initial-help-a-newbie-please/14879/17 "2025-01-21T07:11:08Z")
Hi all. Sorry for another noob question. Ive got alot of flows working really well now. I have one based on motion that triggers a light based on activity and time of day and then a second flow to turn that light off when the zone is inactive for 30 seconds. It mostly works 3 motion sensors, all in the same zone. One is on ground floor, one first floor and one in my attic room. If i trigger any of the sensors individually, the light comes on and then turns off as expected after the delay. However ive found if i trigger the upstairs sensors and then walk down and then in doing so trigger the bottom sensor, the light goes off and then wont turn on again for another 30 seconds or so. I cant figure out why. Here are the flows ![IMG_5440](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/c/2/c2e9d5246be86ff295bee0d9b02a923af14cc8d7.jpeg) ![IMG_5439](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/2/7/27b33bb87ff74362fe7837c764cecd2dfa8f1152.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 9:44am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/any-uk-homey-jedi-s-willing-to-initial-help-a-newbie-please/14879/18 "2025-01-21T09:44:41Z")
Hello Welshsmarthome, For me, this is the optimal way for motion driven lights: ![17370212369438315302032113804600](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/7/e/7ebf99e8aad7c93985a9fbf6db002694f2ad305b.png) Of course you can add the “after sunset” conditional card in the top flow, right next to “the zone became active” trigger. Better use “it is night” (“it is day” card, but inversed). Because right after midnight (new day), the “it’s after sunset” isn’t true anymore ![1000041777](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/f/8/f88e656f4346dacece067ce6084e9144c83274f8.png) . > [@Welshsmarthome](#): > > light off when the zone is inactive for 30 seconds. Please don’t assume motion sensors deactivate the zone the moment it isn’t detecting anything anymore. Certain motion sensors have a 60s active state (preserves battery), but sometimes it’s possible to decrease that time to 30s or even shorter. Depends on the sensor and the app. ---
**Author:** ![Latin105fm](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/latin105fm/32/12583_2.png) [@Latin105fm](https://community.homey.app/u/Latin105fm)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2025, 5:25pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/any-uk-homey-jedi-s-willing-to-initial-help-a-newbie-please/14879/19 "2025-02-16T17:25:35Z")
A few years later… how are you getting on? Just looking back at my old posts before I finally put my hand ins my pocket and buy a Pro… CHeers Daniel ---
**Author:** ![Welshsmarthome](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Welshsmarthome](https://community.homey.app/u/Welshsmarthome)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2025, 9:27pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/any-uk-homey-jedi-s-willing-to-initial-help-a-newbie-please/14879/20 "2025-02-18T21:27:08Z")
Hi. Homey is brilliant. Very powerful for home automation and so many things that work with it. Some little annoyances with it - basic icons / lack of icons for devices, rooms cant be customised and moved into a custom order. I have found the community and support team brilliant with things. I do find it can be slow to trigger things compared to SmartThings, some flows just hang and it can sometimes take a while for devices to share over to amazon - but its not a game changer. My only concern is longevity. Its not got much memory and im 3/4 full now. I have basic flows unlike Some ive seen online. They should improve the memory in a future hub or allow us to swap it out. That said its still Worth the plunge. The bridge has helped with some things too so consider getting one too