# Any ideas about the Smoke Detector Flow?

**URL:** https://community.homey.app/t/any-ideas-about-the-smoke-detector-flow/107836
**Category:** Flows
**Tags:** advancedflow
**Created:** [April 8, 2024, 8:33am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/any-ideas-about-the-smoke-detector-flow/107836 "2024-04-08T08:33:39Z")
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### Author: ![weide43](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/weide43/32/79186_2.png) [@weide43](https://community.homey.app/u/weide43)
#### Post date: [April 8, 2024, 8:33am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/any-ideas-about-the-smoke-detector-flow/107836/1 "2024-04-08T08:33:39Z")

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Hi, I’m new here.  
I had some trouble with the Heiman HS1SA-e smoke detectors and bought the FRIENT smoke detecors.  
They’re working smooth.

I made this advanced flow.  
Does anyone have some suggestions to make it better?

Flow 1 - activeren

 ![2024-04-08_10-30-52](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/5/4/544aecac9d1e4f7110e647feb07a4d45bd126e22.png)

Flow 2 - deactiveren

 ![2024-04-08_10-32-41](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/9/0/906be25c2864a3fc2ccf481e4ee154044fda0f16.png)

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### Author: ![Rrrr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rrrr/32/629_2.png) [@Rrrr](https://community.homey.app/u/Rrrr)
#### Post date: [April 8, 2024, 11:42am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/any-ideas-about-the-smoke-detector-flow/107836/2 "2024-04-08T11:42:05Z")

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@weide43

Nice work! I have only 2 tips for you:

- Your card to set media volume is linked from a smoke detector. This causes unnecessary dependence, eg. what if that smoke detector battery is empty? So better create a link to the media volume from the 30s delay connector
- It is better to separate message notifications from your flows. In the below example I used Simple Log to log the message together with the flow name (“group”) and the urgency (“severity”). Once logged, it can sent a notification based on criteria.
  - saves a lot of cards in your current flow
  - easier to maintain
  - can be reused with your other flows
  - the log can be analyzed, filtered, exported separately

Also keep in mind that notifications are best sent out sequentially or you may cause skipping/overload (in some apps)

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/3/c/3c9d25aba3f63f94387b84e594bb1f5b090c2e87.png)

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#### Post date: [April 8, 2024, 12:58pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/any-ideas-about-the-smoke-detector-flow/107836/3 "2024-04-08T12:58:45Z")

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@Rrrr I followed your advice.

It’s a lot cleaner and now there’s 1 flow that can handling all the notifications 🙂

 ![2024-04-08_14-57-03](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/e/e/ee28b22900435f5575a6d415b49c2e3c0ef4299f.png)  
 ![2024-04-08_14-56-29](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/8/f/8f9ce2a18c7bf0531670b31a001e47e5acd7a845.png)

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### Author: ![DirkG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/dirkg/32/118897_2.png) [@DirkG](https://community.homey.app/u/DirkG)
#### Post date: [April 8, 2024, 2:34pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/any-ideas-about-the-smoke-detector-flow/107836/4 "2024-04-08T14:34:26Z")

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To reduce the number of flow cards, you can also simply use the following flow card:

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/9/8/98c12c041e88d0f254ea1ba38fe27adc9048004f.png)

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### Author: ![weide43](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/weide43/32/79186_2.png) [@weide43](https://community.homey.app/u/weide43)
#### Post date: [April 8, 2024, 6:39pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/any-ideas-about-the-smoke-detector-flow/107836/5 "2024-04-08T18:39:21Z")

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@DirkG This is also a solution?

 ![Schermafbeelding 2024-04-08 203817](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/5/0/50b51013818040dd2d3c321090448afec7a05ffe.png)

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### Author: ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)
#### Post date: [April 9, 2024, 12:54am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/any-ideas-about-the-smoke-detector-flow/107836/6 "2024-04-09T00:54:57Z")

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Pls connect the SimpleLog card in parallels, instead of series.  
In case the SimpleLog app malfunctions, the flow doesn’t complete the way it is now.

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### Author: ![weide43](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/weide43/32/79186_2.png) [@weide43](https://community.homey.app/u/weide43)
#### Post date: [April 9, 2024, 5:35am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/any-ideas-about-the-smoke-detector-flow/107836/7 "2024-04-09T05:35:30Z")

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@Peter_Kawa You mean this?

 ![5dcr1xkh](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/4/6/46c45c2ea1fed8f0b9265480ab2d54d41a4a126e.png)  
 ![lm9mmt4a](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/0/b/0b568a2a9f8d1c462fb11c1882269ae4b02411db.png)

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### Author: ![DirkG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/dirkg/32/118897_2.png) [@DirkG](https://community.homey.app/u/DirkG)
#### Post date: [April 9, 2024, 1:01pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/any-ideas-about-the-smoke-detector-flow/107836/8 "2024-04-09T13:01:22Z")

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Yes, but as Peter already mentioned, I would do it like the lower screen shot.

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### Author: ![weide43](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/weide43/32/79186_2.png) [@weide43](https://community.homey.app/u/weide43)
#### Post date: [April 9, 2024, 1:42pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/any-ideas-about-the-smoke-detector-flow/107836/9 "2024-04-09T13:42:48Z")

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@DirkG Result

 ![2024-04-09_15-40-59](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/8/9/893fc4e21254498dee882a3a4eb07b45abef3474.png)  
 ![2024-04-09_15-40-17](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/f/4/f4295136a4b128c7ebeb48102b91f7980c076b11.png)  
 ![2024-04-09_15-36-19](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/b/d/bd23575fbd0c61b693c60bff53cb42f9e22d0492.png)

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### Author: ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)
#### Post date: [April 9, 2024, 1:55pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/any-ideas-about-the-smoke-detector-flow/107836/10 "2024-04-09T13:55:34Z")

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Perfect.  
Another hint: I’ve learned you (always) need to put a ‘stop casting’ card in front of the ‘cast something’ card.  
Because when some cast is already going on at the same device, ‘Slaapkamer - Thuis’ here, it won’t start an other cast.

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#### Post date: [April 9, 2024, 5:49pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/any-ideas-about-the-smoke-detector-flow/107836/11 "2024-04-09T17:49:01Z")

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Progress here! Very nice.

One comment: you’re selecting twice the app group “Rookmelders” and Critical condition. There’s no need.

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#### Post date: [April 9, 2024, 7:04pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/any-ideas-about-the-smoke-detector-flow/107836/12 "2024-04-09T19:04:11Z")

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@Peter_Kawa @Rrrr  
Thanks for the stop casting, I implemented also in the doorbell flow 🙂

 ![Screenshot_24](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/7/4/745d0ab0df2e84d6f042794ca8431793e19d7026.png)  
 ![Screenshot_23](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/6/d/6da6cb092b1138fdba29d03bfaa46b18d93f7398.png)  
 ![Screenshot_22](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/e/8/e817fe906594f09d96fbc139d90120e72fab8528.png)

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#### Post date: [April 9, 2024, 7:25pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/any-ideas-about-the-smoke-detector-flow/107836/13 "2024-04-09T19:25:54Z")

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You have tested the flow in a ‘real’ test (meaning let the smoke detectors detect smoke)?

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### Author: ![weide43](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/weide43/32/79186_2.png) [@weide43](https://community.homey.app/u/weide43)
#### Post date: [April 10, 2024, 6:19am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/any-ideas-about-the-smoke-detector-flow/107836/14 "2024-04-10T06:19:28Z")

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I test it the first time with smoke but when creating not anymore. Only the flows are tested.  
I will do it asap.

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### Author: ![Hielke\_de\_Jong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/hielke_de_jong/32/79029_2.png) [@Hielke\_de\_Jong](https://community.homey.app/u/Hielke_de_Jong)
#### Post date: [April 10, 2024, 9:07am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/any-ideas-about-the-smoke-detector-flow/107836/15 "2024-04-10T09:07:24Z")

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Reason I asked is only in ‘real’ test you can find out if every stepp you took is usefull. For instance: fun using the led of the Homey when testing but probably no one will see it when a loud alarm goes off in the house. But as being also a very new user; it is fun to add some things in a flow just beacause it can 😀

Also: will the cards Stop warning directly do anything in a real situation? You only shut off the alarms you started with Homey and the last 2 minutes (??)

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### Author: ![weide43](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/weide43/32/79186_2.png) [@weide43](https://community.homey.app/u/weide43)
#### Post date: [April 10, 2024, 4:48pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/any-ideas-about-the-smoke-detector-flow/107836/16 "2024-04-10T16:48:01Z")

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I did a test today and everything works fine.  
Did some changements to duration and deleted the LED option.

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#### Post date: [April 10, 2024, 5:54pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/any-ideas-about-the-smoke-detector-flow/107836/17 "2024-04-10T17:54:09Z")

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👍 hope you never need the flow.

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#### Post date: [April 16, 2024, 8:12pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/any-ideas-about-the-smoke-detector-flow/107836/18 "2024-04-16T20:12:44Z")

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Hi @weide43, how do you get the ‘if’ “De Rookmelder van een apparaat is ingeschakeld?”

I only have those 4 options:

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/9/0/90a46cfe27b7ed921c2ad3a5674a25310e0e5f09.png)

And only have the following tags:  
 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/6/e/6e868d245f2c8895f1a552349f74cc5b896d03c3.png)

so the “Alarm” tag is not available.  
I’m curious which ‘If’ you have selected.

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#### Post date: [April 17, 2024, 4:36am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/any-ideas-about-the-smoke-detector-flow/107836/19 "2024-04-17T04:36:22Z")

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I think by settings “Experimenteren” - “Super user” on active

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#### Post date: [April 17, 2024, 6:10am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/any-ideas-about-the-smoke-detector-flow/107836/20 "2024-04-17T06:10:06Z")

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Unfortunately, I’ve this setting already enabled.  
I just tested by disabing and enabling again, but no difference.

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