# Another developer ask the community for support **URL:** \ **Category:** Questions & Help\ **Created:** [January 13, 2019, 8:44am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/another-developer-ask-the-community-for-support/6689 "2019-01-13T08:44:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Koktail](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/koktail/32/51498_2.png) [@Koktail](https://community.homey.app/u/Koktail)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 8:44am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/another-developer-ask-the-community-for-support/6689/1 "2019-01-13T08:44:38Z")
Following the example of @Gruijter and @DaneedeKruyff and replying the encouragement of some other active developers i want to ask the community for support. I’m developing and maintain Homey BLE apps for [xiaomi mi flora](https://community.homey.app/t/xiaomi-mi-flora-sensor-ropot-app/45/1) and [beacon (presence) app](https://community.homey.app/t/beacon-an-app-for-presence-detection-using-ble-beacons/3550/1) from the time that BLE was in a very fragile state (and released the [p1 smartmeter](https://community.homey.app/t/p1-smartmeter-api/6150) into beta). Always trying to make my apps compatible with the latest firmware (BLE changed a lot after each release cycle) has been (and will be) an massive challenge. When v2.0-rc arrived in the experimental channel I’ve updated my Homey to v2.0 in an early stage to make my apps compatible that resulted in all my apps being broken. (due to core issues) and are broken to this day [(have a look here)](https://github.com/athombv/homey-apps-sdk-issues/issues/created_by/koktaildotcom). Therefor i ask you to support my effort to keep developing, supporting and maintaining my apps and also have the possibility to have a stable and an working Homey myself and keep my plants alive 😉 > **I’ve reached the goal and ordered an development Homey. Many thanks for all your support!!** [![](https://img.shields.io/badge/paypal-donate-green.svg)](https://www.paypal.me/koktaildotcom) Following the example of the developers above: - If you want to support my request please make a donation. - I will update the status of the received donations in this forum topic. (or anonymous, pm me before) - If the goal of 300 euro is reached on/before 1 March, I will buy the Homey. - If the goal is not reached (or left over) it will be donated to [the ocean cleanup](https://www.theoceancleanup.com). ## Donations received: | Date | Name | Amount | | --- | --- | --- | | _13.01_ | _Roy Wissenburg_ | `€ 2,50` | | _13.01_ | _Gerrit Ekelmans_ | `€ 10,00` | | _13.01_ | _Mr a J Rockall_ | `€ 11,19` | | _13.01_ | _Robin De Gruijter_ | `€ 10,00` | | _13.01_ | _Marcel Rijskamp_ | `€ 7,50` | | _13.01_ | _Toby Leurs_ | `€ 10,00` | | _13.01_ | _Bas Van Den Bosch_ | `€ 25,00` | | _13.01_ | _Danee De Kruyff_ | `€ 10,00` | | _13.01_ | _Philipp Schnittger_ | `€ 5,00` | | _13.01_ | _Ton Meek_ | `€ 5,00` | | _13.01_ | _Ja Pekkeriet_ | `€ 5,00` | | _13.01_ | _Wouter Dam_ | `€ 10,00` | | _13.01_ | _Jurgen Huijbregts_ | `€ 8,81` | | _13.01_ | _Viktor Gjorgjiev_ | `€ 10,00` | | _13.01_ | _Camille Versteeg_ | `€ 13,37` | | _13.01_ | _Camille Versteeg_ | `€ 13,37` | | _13.01_ | _Marijn Roverts_ | `€ 5,00` | | _13.01_ | _Ernst van den Bosch_ | `€ 2,50` | | _14.01_ | _Glenn Seegers_ | `€ 10,00` | | _14.01_ | _Johan Bendz_ | `€ 5,00` | | _14.01_ | _Klas Stenmo_ | `€ 4,72` | | _14.01_ | _Dan Buzatu_ | `€ 5,00` | | _14.01_ | _Marcus Åkerlund_ | `€ 5,00` | | _14.01_ | _Anonymous_ | `€ 6,04` | | _14.01_ | _Petter Røisland_ | `€ 5,00` | | _14.01_ | _Jeroen Brosens_ | `€ 3,00` | | _15.01_ | _Dick Oussoren_ | `€ 5,00` | | _15.01_ | _Ted Tolboom_ | `€ 10,00` | | _15.01_ | _Roel Pijpers_ | `€ 10,00` | | _16.01_ | _Earl Grey_ | `€ 5,00` | | _16.01_ | _Philipp Schnittger_ | `€ 5,00` | | _16.01_ | _Davor Baselj_ | `€ 5,00` | | _16.01_ | _Martijn Hoogenbosch_ | `€ 5,00` | | _16.01_ | _Mike Sternfeld_ | `€ 5,00` | | _16.01_ | _Jeroen van Reenen_ | `€ 30,00` | | _16.01_ | _Ernst Van Den Bosch_ | `€ 12,50` | | _Total_ | | **€ 300.50** | > Please do not feel obligated to donate. If you are not in the position to donate. Or if you want using the app for free, it is your right to do so. Clicking `❤` is also support! ---
**Author:** ![Koktail](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/koktail/32/51498_2.png) [@Koktail](https://community.homey.app/u/Koktail)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 9:13am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/another-developer-ask-the-community-for-support/6689/3 "2019-01-13T09:13:43Z")
> [@RoyWissenburg](#): > > BUT wouldnt it be fair the left over is donted to another devolper that he/she also can buy his second homey to help us? (just my thoughts) First of all: Thanks for your donation! That is a very good idea! For now i’ll keep the OP because changing it now wouldn’t be fair imo, the next developer can do so. ---
**Author:** ![Gerrit\_Ekelmans](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gerrit_ekelmans/32/8452_2.png) [@Gerrit\_Ekelmans](https://community.homey.app/u/Gerrit_Ekelmans)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 9:14am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/another-developer-ask-the-community-for-support/6689/4 "2019-01-13T09:14:13Z")
Donated @Koktail for the support for specially the BLE problems. I’m fully agree with @RoyWissenburg about the left over to donated to an other developer. I supposed this also to gruijter for helping koktail… > [@Developer asking for donations from Homey users](https://community.homey.app/t/developer-asking-for-donations-from-homey-users/6625/17): > > Donated specially because of the youless app. @Gruijter succes. If you have more then €300 please help also @Koktail , he can use specially now with the BLE problem also a second homey, a lot of people waiting for a solution for the beacon app gringrin ---
**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 10:02am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/another-developer-ask-the-community-for-support/6689/6 "2019-01-13T10:02:24Z")
Donated! BUT… I think what is happening here is more proof that a _sustainable_ solution is needed to help out community developers. Tomorrow the next developer will ask the same, and the day after another… The donations are heartwarming, but is donated by a relative small group of people who care. In my opinion there are a number stakeholders that benefit from the work of community developers: - The developer himself, since it is his hobby - App users, since they get more value out of their purchased Homey - Device manufactures, since they will sell more if Homey supports their device - Athom sales, since it increases the value of Homey, and more users will buy it - Athom brand, since the feedback that is provided by developers is used to improve the product (they get free testers) All the stakeholders should contribute is my opinion: - The developer: by spending huge amount of time developing and maintaining apps and provide feedback to Athom development - App users: by paying a small amount of money when they install an app from a community developer - Device manufactures: by donating test devices and give free support - Athom sales: by donating a Homey, or give huge discount, based on the number of app installs - Athom brand: hand out company shares of Athom to developers 🙂 To make app users pay for apps, a donation button is not enough. Less then 1% of app users actually do a donation. Athom could make a paid store, where they have the official Athom apps for free, and where community apps developers can ask anything from 0 \> donate \> max 5 euro. This would be fair: the more users install a community app, the more he gets paid. This also encourages app builders to work on apps that are really appreciated (= good functionality and stable). Just my 2 cents… ---
**Author:** ![Gerrit\_Ekelmans](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gerrit_ekelmans/32/8452_2.png) [@Gerrit\_Ekelmans](https://community.homey.app/u/Gerrit_Ekelmans)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 10:07am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/another-developer-ask-the-community-for-support/6689/7 "2019-01-13T10:07:18Z")
fully agree with your idea ---
**Author:** ![PhilS](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/phils/32/12941_2.png) [@PhilS](https://community.homey.app/u/PhilS)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 10:51am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/another-developer-ask-the-community-for-support/6689/8 "2019-01-13T10:51:40Z")
Donated. Hope you will get your goal! Greedings ---
**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 10:56am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/another-developer-ask-the-community-for-support/6689/9 "2019-01-13T10:56:16Z")
> [@PhilS](#): > > Greedings 🤣 (funny typo) ---
**Author:** ![Koktail](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/koktail/32/51498_2.png) [@Koktail](https://community.homey.app/u/Koktail)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 11:50am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/another-developer-ask-the-community-for-support/6689/10 "2019-01-13T11:50:16Z")
I do not agree. I think the apps should be used anytime by everybody without restriction. I think effort and time the developer give to a project should be more visible and there should be more focus on that. ---
**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 12:01pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/another-developer-ask-the-community-for-support/6689/11 "2019-01-13T12:01:16Z")
Fair enough. And what about the idea to have Athom lend out Homeys to developers that need it, and that have over 500 app installs? ---
**Author:** ![PhilS](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/phils/32/12941_2.png) [@PhilS](https://community.homey.app/u/PhilS)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 12:18pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/another-developer-ask-the-community-for-support/6689/12 "2019-01-13T12:18:45Z")
LOL F… iPhone spelling help ---
**Author:** ![Wouter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/wouter/32/3824_2.png) [@Wouter](https://community.homey.app/u/Wouter)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 4:39pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/another-developer-ask-the-community-for-support/6689/13 "2019-01-13T16:39:26Z")
I made a small donation, hope the goal gets reached! I do however would like to add that I don’t think the leftovers should go to charity. They should be donated to the next crowdfunding attempt by an app developer. ---
**Author:** ![anon2681894](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@anon2681894](https://community.homey.app/u/anon2681894)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 4:43pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/another-developer-ask-the-community-for-support/6689/14 "2019-01-13T16:43:48Z")
Donated 🙂 would love my plants to survive… ---
**Author:** ![Koktail](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/koktail/32/51498_2.png) [@Koktail](https://community.homey.app/u/Koktail)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 5:38pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/another-developer-ask-the-community-for-support/6689/15 "2019-01-13T17:38:37Z")
Many, many thanks for all of you! 🤗 ---
**Author:** ![matrover](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/matrover/32/12112_2.png) [@matrover](https://community.homey.app/u/matrover)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 7:33pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/another-developer-ask-the-community-for-support/6689/16 "2019-01-13T19:33:36Z")
Donated, im using your apps and @Gruijter ‘s apps (not to mention support) Keep up the good work! ---
**Author:** ![Eternity](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/eternity/32/102113_2.png) [@Eternity](https://community.homey.app/u/Eternity)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 8:05pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/another-developer-ask-the-community-for-support/6689/17 "2019-01-13T20:05:34Z")
Small donation made. ---
**Author:** ![danone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/danone/32/115743_2.png) [@danone](https://community.homey.app/u/danone)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2019, 12:20pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/another-developer-ask-the-community-for-support/6689/18 "2019-01-14T12:20:57Z")
Here is a small one. Not using any of your apps but I will install Beacon once all BL sorted out by Athom. Keep up the great work! ---
**Author:** ![Koktail](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/koktail/32/51498_2.png) [@Koktail](https://community.homey.app/u/Koktail)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2019, 9:35am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/another-developer-ask-the-community-for-support/6689/19 "2019-01-15T09:35:22Z")
Many thanks for all your support! 🤗 Where are already on **71%**! ---
**Author:** ![TedTolboom](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/tedtolboom/32/12081_2.png) [@TedTolboom](https://community.homey.app/u/TedTolboom)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2019, 9:56am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/another-developer-ask-the-community-for-support/6689/20 "2019-01-15T09:56:42Z")
Donated for supporting to keep my plants green and your role as Bluetooth community developer / explorer! 👍🏻 ---
**Author:** ![R0el](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/r0el/32/3955_2.png) [@R0el](https://community.homey.app/u/R0el)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2019, 10:11am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/another-developer-ask-the-community-for-support/6689/21 "2019-01-15T10:11:24Z")
Donated! Keep up the good work. 🙂 Maybe you could get the Homey Pro when you reach the goal of €399,- 😋 ---
**Author:** ![Sirotkaslo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/sirotkaslo/32/218_2.png) [@Sirotkaslo](https://community.homey.app/u/Sirotkaslo)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2019, 7:18am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/another-developer-ask-the-community-for-support/6689/22 "2019-01-16T07:18:06Z")
Donated, will be using your apps once I finish my house, thanks :)! [Next page](https://community.homey.app/t/another-developer-ask-the-community-for-support/6689.md?page=2)