# ALL Card **URL:** \ **Category:** Questions & Help\ **Tags:** advancedflow\ **Created:** [July 13, 2022, 7:39pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/all-card/65993 "2022-07-13T19:39:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Philip\_Montgomery](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/philip_montgomery/32/12434_2.png) [@Philip\_Montgomery](https://community.homey.app/u/Philip_Montgomery)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 7:39pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/all-card/65993/1 "2022-07-13T19:39:57Z")
Puzzled user ![Screenshot 2022-07-13 203803](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/a/2/a27c204daf3bd609eed78a93d58473f71217530d.jpeg) When I try to create this advanced flow, using the ALL card so that when all 4 of us leave the house, our presence is changed to away…the flow does not respond at all. I presume I’m missing something basic and would appreciate some help. ---
**Author:** ![Henk\_Renting](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/henk_renting/32/87634_2.png) [@Henk\_Renting](https://community.homey.app/u/Henk_Renting)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 7:47pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/all-card/65993/2 "2022-07-13T19:47:29Z")
Is the presence detection working ok? Some users have troubles with the built in presence detection of Homey. You could add a THEN card to each “xxx left home” card which writes a message “xxx has left” to Homeys timeline so you know if all users are away or not. Does that work ok? ---
**Author:** ![Dijker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Dijker](https://community.homey.app/u/Dijker)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 7:56pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/all-card/65993/3 "2022-07-13T19:56:36Z")
> [@Philip\_Montgomery](#): > > When I try to create this advanced flow, using the ALL card so that when all 4 of us leave the house, That is never going to trigger, When are you all four leaving the house in the same millisecond? Answered here: > [@\[FAQ\]\[Advanced Flow\] Infinite canvas. Infinite creativity](https://community.homey.app/t/faq-advanced-flow-infinite-canvas-infinite-creativity/65145/1): > > **Two triggers to start an ALL** > Also applies to all other different **triggers** b̶e̶h̶i̶n̶d̶ before an ALL like “Someone came Home” AND “the door is opened” =\> That is NOT going to trigger NEVER! ---
**Author:** ![Philip\_Montgomery](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/philip_montgomery/32/12434_2.png) [@Philip\_Montgomery](https://community.homey.app/u/Philip_Montgomery)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 8:01pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/all-card/65993/4 "2022-07-13T20:01:21Z")
Presence detection is poor via the app so I use macrodroid and webhooks, this has been working great with simple flows. Thought I would try an advanced flow to try and learn, first attempt and it didn’t happen ---
**Author:** ![Philip\_Montgomery](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/philip_montgomery/32/12434_2.png) [@Philip\_Montgomery](https://community.homey.app/u/Philip_Montgomery)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 8:04pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/all-card/65993/5 "2022-07-13T20:04:34Z")
We aren’t of course, from having listened to the AMA I had thought that the ALL card waited until ALL the triggers were activated before advancing. As an experiment I manually marked us all as away in quick succession and it still did not work. SO only 2 triggers to start an ALL. OK, I will change the trigger to When Last Person Leaves The House. Thanks for your quick response ---
**Author:** ![Dijker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Dijker](https://community.homey.app/u/Dijker)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 8:07pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/all-card/65993/6 "2022-07-13T20:07:47Z")
> [@Philip\_Montgomery](#): > > SO only 2 triggers to start an ALL Nope, One Trigger … And multiple conditions a-synchrone behind ALL. Other Trigger is other Run Instance and doesn’t wait for new triggers. it just dies…