# Ajax systems integration to complement home security

**URL:** <https://community.homey.app/t/ajax-systems-integration-to-complement-home-security/7558>\
**Category:** Ideas & Suggestions\
**Created:** [January 21, 2019, 9:26am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/ajax-systems-integration-to-complement-home-security/7558 "2019-01-21T09:26:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![christhedj](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/christhedj/32/35151_2.png) [@christhedj](https://community.homey.app/u/christhedj)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2022, 5:28pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/ajax-systems-integration-to-complement-home-security/7558/82 "2022-09-05T17:28:37Z")

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I’m a tech journalist and was sent an Ajax system to review when they launched. I told them that it was good, but I would review it when it was integration ready as I didn’t want to review yet another proprietary product - I’ve seen so many come and go.

They’ve told me it’s “on the roadmap for Q4” or similar every year since 2019, so don’t expect too much.

(In fairness, A.S. is based in Ukraine and I know they’ve had to move the entire operation out of Kiev to a safer location, so I am sure they have bigger things to worry about!)

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**Author:** ![Clock1932](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/clock1932/32/59761_2.png) [@Clock1932](https://community.homey.app/u/Clock1932)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2022, 8:11pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/ajax-systems-integration-to-complement-home-security/7558/83 "2022-09-05T20:11:57Z")

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FYI: as long as official API integration isn’t there, I’ve build a DIY integration. Both from AJAX to Homey (alarm, fire alarm, armed, partially armed) and from Homey to AJAX (arm, disarm, partial arm, panic). Works like a charm and dead reliable so far. Not cheap though.

Link to Dutch forum incl pictures. Can translate if needed.  
[https://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list\_message/72351340#72351340](https://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_message/72351340#72351340)

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**Author:** ![Martijn\_C](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/martijn_c/32/39993_2.png) [@Martijn\_C](https://community.homey.app/u/Martijn_C)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2022, 6:17am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/ajax-systems-integration-to-complement-home-security/7558/84 "2022-09-06T06:17:52Z")

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Translated.

Funny that you used my article mentioned above from FWD.nl as a the start. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Clock1932](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/clock1932/32/59761_2.png) [@Clock1932](https://community.homey.app/u/Clock1932)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2022, 8:21am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/ajax-systems-integration-to-complement-home-security/7558/85 "2022-09-06T08:21:10Z")

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Absolutely Martijn, credits to you! Inspired a lot more of my Smarthome design based on your FWD blogs. Thnx 🙂

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**Author:** ![Alessandro\_Rossi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/alessandro_rossi/32/37432_2.png) [@Alessandro\_Rossi](https://community.homey.app/u/Alessandro_Rossi)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2022, 8:48am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/ajax-systems-integration-to-complement-home-security/7558/86 "2022-09-06T08:48:34Z")

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A few days ago Ajax announced this:

> **[Ajax Systems will unveil new products at Special Event: Comfort zone, October...](https://ajax.systems/blog/special-event-2022/)**
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> Read the article "Ajax Systems will unveil new products at Special Event: Comfort zone, October 11" by Ajax Systems experts. Articles on home and business security.

On Linkedin with the announcement they “leaked” SmartHome and domotic in their first post…crossed fingers 🤞🏼

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**Author:** ![Martijn\_C](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/martijn_c/32/39993_2.png) [@Martijn\_C](https://community.homey.app/u/Martijn_C)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2022, 12:05pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/ajax-systems-integration-to-complement-home-security/7558/87 "2022-10-11T12:05:38Z")

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Seems like the wait was for nothing. AJAX has decided to go after it’s own share of the smart home pie.

> **[AJAX systems zet in op eigen smarthome met verlichting en luchtkwaliteit](https://fwd.nl/smarthome/ajax-systems-zet-in-op-eigen-smarthome-met-verlichting-en-luchtkwaliteit/)**
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> AJAX introduceert vandaag verschillende nieuwe, slimme producten, waaronder schakelaars, luchtkwaliteitsensoren en een waterstop.

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**Author:** ![Joseph](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/joseph/32/9941_2.png) [@Joseph](https://community.homey.app/u/Joseph)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2022, 12:36pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/ajax-systems-integration-to-complement-home-security/7558/88 "2022-10-11T12:36:43Z")

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I already suspected this was the reason it took forever.  
Although taking a share should not require a choice of closed standards … like some other vendors also do

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**Author:** ![Martijn\_C](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/martijn_c/32/39993_2.png) [@Martijn\_C](https://community.homey.app/u/Martijn_C)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2022, 12:37pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/ajax-systems-integration-to-complement-home-security/7558/89 "2022-10-11T12:37:35Z")

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I agree completely, but I’m afraid they’ll try to lock people in before opening up.

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**Author:** ![Jo\_San](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jo_san/32/3732_2.png) [@Jo\_San](https://community.homey.app/u/Jo_San)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2022, 12:40pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/ajax-systems-integration-to-complement-home-security/7558/90 "2022-10-11T12:40:23Z")

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Yes, a real bummer.

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**Author:** ![SilentRob](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/silentrob/32/50138_2.png) [@SilentRob](https://community.homey.app/u/SilentRob)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2022, 12:48pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/ajax-systems-integration-to-complement-home-security/7558/91 "2022-10-11T12:48:35Z")

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so there’s no matter integration?

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**Author:** ![Martijn\_C](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/martijn_c/32/39993_2.png) [@Martijn\_C](https://community.homey.app/u/Martijn_C)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2022, 1:23pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/ajax-systems-integration-to-complement-home-security/7558/92 "2022-10-11T13:23:07Z")

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No mention of it. Personally I think they deliberately want it to be a closed system, on the one hand because of the alarm element which is certified, and on the other hand because they’d make more money. Also I believe they don’t have enough knowledge about the smarthome market to be aware of the potential impact of Matter.

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**Author:** ![Stijn\_vdh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/stijn_vdh/32/17439_2.png) [@Stijn\_vdh](https://community.homey.app/u/Stijn_vdh)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2022, 2:58pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/ajax-systems-integration-to-complement-home-security/7558/93 "2022-10-11T14:58:29Z")

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I made an email to support lately asking how far they are on the subject and they replied it’s not on the roadmap….

Verzonden vanuit [Mail](https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986) voor Windows

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**Author:** ![Martijn\_C](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/martijn_c/32/39993_2.png) [@Martijn\_C](https://community.homey.app/u/Martijn_C)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2022, 9:27am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/ajax-systems-integration-to-complement-home-security/7558/94 "2022-10-12T09:27:14Z")

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This is what their PR manager says;

“So far, we don’t have any plans in our roadmap regarding the Matter standard, but maybe in the future this changes. The chances that Ajax one day will be open up for other smart home systems are still there, just the R&D priority is always given to other projects right now.”

As I read it it won’t be happening.

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**Author:** ![Magnil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/magnil/32/34348_2.png) [@Magnil](https://community.homey.app/u/Magnil)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2022, 9:42am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/ajax-systems-integration-to-complement-home-security/7558/95 "2022-10-12T09:42:05Z")

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Really like Ajax beside that it does not talk to other systems.

What similar alarm systems is there that works with Homey etc?

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**Author:** ![Jo\_San](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jo_san/32/3732_2.png) [@Jo\_San](https://community.homey.app/u/Jo_San)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2022, 10:07am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/ajax-systems-integration-to-complement-home-security/7558/96 "2022-10-12T10:07:44Z")

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Kun je met de “relay / smart implant” oplossing ook statussen van bewegingsmelders doorgeven?

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**Author:** ![Mickel\_Luiten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/mickel_luiten/32/12404_2.png) [@Mickel\_Luiten](https://community.homey.app/u/Mickel_Luiten)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2022, 10:37am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/ajax-systems-integration-to-complement-home-security/7558/97 "2022-10-12T10:37:36Z")

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@Magnil , check out . [Satel Integra Alarm App voor Homey | Homey](https://homey.app/nl-nl/app/com.satelintegra/Satel-Integra-Alarm/)  
Only for Homey Pro.

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**Author:** ![Martijn\_C](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/martijn_c/32/39993_2.png) [@Martijn\_C](https://community.homey.app/u/Martijn_C)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2022, 11:46am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/ajax-systems-integration-to-complement-home-security/7558/98 "2022-10-12T11:46:06Z")

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Helaas niet.

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**Author:** ![Jo\_San](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jo_san/32/3732_2.png) [@Jo\_San](https://community.homey.app/u/Jo_San)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2022, 12:55pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/ajax-systems-integration-to-complement-home-security/7558/99 "2022-10-12T12:55:46Z")

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Dat is jammer. Nou ja, we wachten maar rustig af.

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**Author:** ![Jo\_San](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jo_san/32/3732_2.png) [@Jo\_San](https://community.homey.app/u/Jo_San)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2022, 12:44pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/ajax-systems-integration-to-complement-home-security/7558/100 "2022-10-22T12:44:07Z")

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@Martijn_C As I have given up hope on Ajax providing an API, I think I am going to implement your solution. I only need arm/disarm status and alarm status, so as I understand I can do with 2 Ajax relays and 1 Fibaro smart implant.  
What I am not sure of is what kind of 12V adapter and which kind of wires I would need for the 12V part. Any tips for that?

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**Author:** ![David\_K](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/david_k/32/10319_2.png) [@David\_K](https://community.homey.app/u/David_K)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2023, 8:42am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/ajax-systems-integration-to-complement-home-security/7558/101 "2023-02-17T08:42:13Z")

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Have been looking at this thread for quite some time. We installed Ajax alarm system at my mother-in-law and was thinking about the same in my app. The thing is for me its completely crazy to have one door sensor from ajax for alarm purpose then another for homey purposes. For that reason I was hoping to see some API from Ajax so some sensors and their status can be reused. Looks like not gonna happen.

Anyone knows similar alarm systems that are simple yet have API and Homey app for integrations?

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