# Ajax systems integration to complement home security

**URL:** <https://community.homey.app/t/ajax-systems-integration-to-complement-home-security/7558>\
**Category:** Ideas & Suggestions\
**Created:** [January 21, 2019, 9:26am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/ajax-systems-integration-to-complement-home-security/7558 "2019-01-21T09:26:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Martijn\_C](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/martijn_c/32/39993_2.png) [@Martijn\_C](https://community.homey.app/u/Martijn_C)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2021, 8:48am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/ajax-systems-integration-to-complement-home-security/7558/62 "2021-03-30T08:48:37Z")

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The second tab on the bottom of the screen. The one with the meter symbol. There you can see if the Smart Implant changes status after the relay changes status. Switch the relay and see what happens there.

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**Author:** ![Martijn\_C](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/martijn_c/32/39993_2.png) [@Martijn\_C](https://community.homey.app/u/Martijn_C)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2021, 8:50am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/ajax-systems-integration-to-complement-home-security/7558/63 "2021-03-30T08:50:42Z")

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You don’t have to comment on the article on that website. It’s me who wrote it. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Herve69](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/herve69/32/37183_2.png) [@Herve69](https://community.homey.app/u/Herve69)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2021, 8:52am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/ajax-systems-integration-to-complement-home-security/7558/64 "2021-03-30T08:52:38Z")

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It always stays like this :

 ![Screenshot_20210330-104923](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/3/e/3e0c9aa506cf553f905416b086509bca4b8f8bdd.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Herve69](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/herve69/32/37183_2.png) [@Herve69](https://community.homey.app/u/Herve69)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2021, 8:53am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/ajax-systems-integration-to-complement-home-security/7558/65 "2021-03-30T08:53:10Z")

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Oups sorry 😉

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**Author:** ![Martijn\_C](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/martijn_c/32/39993_2.png) [@Martijn\_C](https://community.homey.app/u/Martijn_C)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2021, 8:54am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/ajax-systems-integration-to-complement-home-security/7558/66 "2021-03-30T08:54:09Z")

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No problem. Turn the relay on and off several times and restart the Fibaro app on your Homey once or twice. If the relay works the Smart Implant should react.

One extra tip; change group 1 to “1” and back to “1.1” a few times.

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**Author:** ![Herve69](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/herve69/32/37183_2.png) [@Herve69](https://community.homey.app/u/Herve69)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2021, 9:20am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/ajax-systems-integration-to-complement-home-security/7558/67 "2021-03-30T09:20:24Z")

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I’ve turned the relay on and off several times and restart the Fibaro app on my Homey several times. No reaction, same screen for the Fibaro’s app ☹

… but I’ve changed group 1 to “1” and back to “1.1” a few times, and now it WORKS ! Thanks a lot Martin 👌 😉

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**Author:** ![Martijn\_C](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/martijn_c/32/39993_2.png) [@Martijn\_C](https://community.homey.app/u/Martijn_C)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2021, 9:20am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/ajax-systems-integration-to-complement-home-security/7558/68 "2021-03-30T09:20:40Z")

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Good to hear! 🙂

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**Author:** ![Herve69](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/herve69/32/37183_2.png) [@Herve69](https://community.homey.app/u/Herve69)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2021, 11:01am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/ajax-systems-integration-to-complement-home-security/7558/69 "2021-03-30T11:01:19Z")

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> [@Quand j'arrive près de chez moi ou que je m'en vais](https://community.homey.app/t/quand-jarrive-pres-de-chez-moi-ou-que-je-men-vais/36995/13):
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> Ca y est, j’ai enfin réussi à récupérer le statut On / Off de mon alarme Ajax dans Homey slight_smile Ca n’a pas été un long fleuve tranquille mais à mon avis, lorsqu’on connait les pièges et qu’on sait les éviter, ça doit fonctionner nickel slight_smile Les étapes : Acheter un Ajax Relay, un Fibaro Smart Implant, une alimentation 12V et l’embout 2 fils qui va bien avec l’adaptateur Brancher le Relay, le Fibaro et l’alimentation 12V comme ci-dessous : [Relier Ajax Relay & Fibaro Smart Im…

The whole process in French 😊

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**Author:** ![fsw](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/fsw/32/5831_2.png) [@fsw](https://community.homey.app/u/fsw)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2021, 10:01am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/ajax-systems-integration-to-complement-home-security/7558/70 "2021-08-27T10:01:29Z")

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shelly i3 might also be an option

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**Author:** ![SilentRob](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/silentrob/32/50138_2.png) [@SilentRob](https://community.homey.app/u/SilentRob)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2022, 2:46pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/ajax-systems-integration-to-complement-home-security/7558/71 "2022-01-12T14:46:41Z")

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@Martijn_C have u had any update on this? It’s almost 2 years after they told you they were working on it. 😅

@Jo_San, would it be possible with a 2nd ajax & innr plug to detect if the alarm is being triggered?

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**Author:** ![Martijn\_C](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/martijn_c/32/39993_2.png) [@Martijn\_C](https://community.homey.app/u/Martijn_C)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2022, 3:11pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/ajax-systems-integration-to-complement-home-security/7558/72 "2022-01-12T15:11:30Z")

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Haha, yeah… I know. No, no update. Seems like they are focussing more on expanding the range with new series. Unfortunately.

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**Author:** ![Jo\_San](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jo_san/32/3732_2.png) [@Jo\_San](https://community.homey.app/u/Jo_San)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2022, 3:51pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/ajax-systems-integration-to-complement-home-security/7558/73 "2022-01-12T15:51:33Z")

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@SilentRob I had not thought of that, but I do think that that is possible. It is possible to activate an Ajax plug when alarm is triggered by using scenes, so that should be possible.

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**Author:** ![Jo\_San](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jo_san/32/3732_2.png) [@Jo\_San](https://community.homey.app/u/Jo_San)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 9:32pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/ajax-systems-integration-to-complement-home-security/7558/74 "2022-07-06T21:32:12Z")

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Any news on the Ajax public API?

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**Author:** ![Stijn\_vdh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/stijn_vdh/32/17439_2.png) [@Stijn\_vdh](https://community.homey.app/u/Stijn_vdh)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2022, 10:54pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/ajax-systems-integration-to-complement-home-security/7558/75 "2022-07-11T22:54:20Z")

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Not that I’m aware off, sadly…

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**Author:** ![Martijn\_C](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/martijn_c/32/39993_2.png) [@Martijn\_C](https://community.homey.app/u/Martijn_C)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 7:13am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/ajax-systems-integration-to-complement-home-security/7558/76 "2022-07-12T07:13:19Z")

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Nope… very quiet from their side.

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**Author:** ![Jo\_San](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jo_san/32/3732_2.png) [@Jo\_San](https://community.homey.app/u/Jo_San)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 7:30am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/ajax-systems-integration-to-complement-home-security/7558/77 "2022-07-12T07:30:53Z")

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That’s a shame. When I bought the system, they had Homekit, zwave etc high on the customer wishlist and I thought it would just be a matter of (little) time.  
How much I do like the Ajax system, if I were to make this investment again I would probably choose a system that does have better integration with home automation systems.  
It would be so good if the door and window sensors could be used in Homey flows.

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**Author:** ![Stijn\_vdh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/stijn_vdh/32/17439_2.png) [@Stijn\_vdh](https://community.homey.app/u/Stijn_vdh)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 8:38am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/ajax-systems-integration-to-complement-home-security/7558/78 "2022-07-12T08:38:48Z")

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I’m guessing it is also a money question, they invested alot in a platform for security firms… Opening this with api’s would maybe be conflicting?

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**Author:** ![Jo\_San](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jo_san/32/3732_2.png) [@Jo\_San](https://community.homey.app/u/Jo_San)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 9:00am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/ajax-systems-integration-to-complement-home-security/7558/79 "2022-07-12T09:00:48Z")

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Could be, however I doubt what the conflict would be. A security firm cannot do my Homey automation. All we need is an API to read some values. I would not want to be able to influence the alarm system.

There is a possibility with the SIA protocol, the protocol that also communicates with security firms. There is a Home Assistant app for it, so there should be possibilities. The Home Assistant app only has the alarm states, not sensors. I would want to have the sensor information (open/closed).

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**Author:** ![Alessandro\_Rossi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/alessandro_rossi/32/37432_2.png) [@Alessandro\_Rossi](https://community.homey.app/u/Alessandro_Rossi)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 12:07pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/ajax-systems-integration-to-complement-home-security/7558/80 "2022-07-12T12:07:48Z")

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I have it “someway” integrated, at least in “read only” mode. I like this way, since I don’t want my alarm (and neither the doors/gates) to be activated or deactivated through an automation.

I integrated the Ajax status thanks to the SIA protocol in Home Assistant and I have created a virtual device in Homey reading the status.

![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/2/7/2749ba17abbe36135f09cabe21e0d232767837a7.png) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/6/8/68d53f87ff3f71a3d578f2360f19e506cdf88889.png)

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/3/1/311c49624e65c2ab35e8d18e3e6986a1e8f8468f.png)

Now I have flows to remind me to arm the system when I leave home, or disarm it when coming back home and the system is still armed…and others based on the “Armed/Disarmed/Armed Night/Armed Away” modes.  
Please note that I have only the main Ajax Hub with external sensors…I don’t know what type of data is available from Ajax contact sensors in Home Assistant.

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**Author:** ![Kattlukt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/kattlukt/32/57127_2.png) [@Kattlukt](https://community.homey.app/u/Kattlukt)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2022, 3:44pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/ajax-systems-integration-to-complement-home-security/7558/81 "2022-09-03T15:44:35Z")

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I followed this and I can control ajax with mqtt.  
Working great!  
[https://bitbucket.org/iesus\_sonesson/d1-ajax-mqtt/src/master/](https://bitbucket.org/iesus_sonesson/d1-ajax-mqtt/src/master/)

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