# Advanced Flow — Community Q&A (from Ask Me Anything 05-07-2022) **URL:** \ **Category:** Questions & Help\ **Tags:** advancedflow\ **Created:** [July 5, 2022, 7:38pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/advanced-flow-community-q-a-from-ask-me-anything-05-07-2022/65579 "2022-07-05T19:38:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Ronald\_de\_Boer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ronald_de_boer/32/13873_2.png) [@Ronald\_de\_Boer](https://community.homey.app/u/Ronald_de_Boer)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2022, 3:33pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/advanced-flow-community-q-a-from-ask-me-anything-05-07-2022/65579/161 "2022-07-02T15:33:22Z")
[Group](https://homey.app/en-us/app/com.swttt.devicegroups/%3C-group-%3E/) is an App which makes it possible to make a group of devices… And @Dijker is of course right… AF did not change the flow cards… ---
**Author:** ![widameista](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/widameista/32/23333_2.png) [@widameista](https://community.homey.app/u/widameista)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2022, 4:05pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/advanced-flow-community-q-a-from-ask-me-anything-05-07-2022/65579/162 "2022-07-02T16:05:08Z")
As we are now forced to Web to edit Advanced flows i would really like to see the timeline in web too. - the possibility to see output of Apps like Simplelog. Now i have to jump between web for editing and mobile to see my log entries in timeline. i there any other log possibility which i can use AND see in web? ---
**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2022, 4:51pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/advanced-flow-community-q-a-from-ask-me-anything-05-07-2022/65579/163 "2022-07-02T16:51:42Z")
You mean these? ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/9/e/9e61bc387aa606d59b63b439adaca8427249e76b.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![widameista](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/widameista/32/23333_2.png) [@widameista](https://community.homey.app/u/widameista)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2022, 5:20pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/advanced-flow-community-q-a-from-ask-me-anything-05-07-2022/65579/164 "2022-07-02T17:20:55Z")
> [@robertklep](#): > > You mean these? Yes. How does this work? ---
**Author:** ![Dijker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Dijker](https://community.homey.app/u/Dijker)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2022, 5:24pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/advanced-flow-community-q-a-from-ask-me-anything-05-07-2022/65579/165 "2022-07-02T17:24:44Z")
> [@widameista](#): > > How does this work? Click on the bel, thats your realtime Homey notifications timeline. ---
**Author:** ![Dirk\_Gooremans](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/dirk_gooremans/32/48217_2.png) [@Dirk\_Gooremans](https://community.homey.app/u/Dirk_Gooremans)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2022, 5:47pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/advanced-flow-community-q-a-from-ask-me-anything-05-07-2022/65579/166 "2022-07-02T17:47:20Z")
Thank you !!! ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2022, 10:56pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/advanced-flow-community-q-a-from-ask-me-anything-05-07-2022/65579/167 "2022-07-02T22:56:22Z")
> [@widameista](#): > > - the possibility to see output of Apps like Simplelog. > Now i have to jump between web for editing and mobile to see my log entries in timeline. > > i there any other log possibility which i can use AND see in web? There is, you can use the phone simulator for app settings at the [developer page](https://tools.developer.homey.app/tools/app-settings): > ![Screenshot from 2022-07-03 00-54-26](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/6/3/63a131daf58a51f296dc00338c5fe7c07c8d358c.png) ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2022, 11:04pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/advanced-flow-community-q-a-from-ask-me-anything-05-07-2022/65579/168 "2022-07-02T23:04:17Z")
This saves the use of a variable (a variable has changed) to start a flow with a certain event ![Screenshot from 2022-07-03 01-01-07](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/a/3/a3b8dc4701ed49a105881e897382377f70c56e0c.png) (Screenshot stolen from @DirkG ) BUT why can’t we enter the Text-tag value right at the triggercard? Now we have to - very advanced - use a logics condition card to get the Text-tag value into the flow… ? ---
**Author:** ![DirkG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/dirkg/32/118897_2.png) [@DirkG](https://community.homey.app/u/DirkG)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2022, 6:48am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/advanced-flow-community-q-a-from-ask-me-anything-05-07-2022/65579/169 "2022-07-03T06:48:29Z")
Made it a little bit more _ **advanced** _ 😉 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/8/2/826acf15b73061c5736197ef649ff335c7d1acae.png) ---
**Author:** ![prosumer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/prosumer/32/166478_2.png) [@prosumer](https://community.homey.app/u/prosumer)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2022, 8:30am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/advanced-flow-community-q-a-from-ask-me-anything-05-07-2022/65579/170 "2022-07-03T08:30:16Z")
If there won’t be a free trial, can EU citizens still cancel within 14 days? (And use that as their free trial?) > **[Guarantees, cancelling and returning your purchases - Your Europe](https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/consumers/shopping/guarantees-returns/index_en.htm)** > > How to claim the 2-year guarantee for EU purchases, get a repair, replacement or refund, how to cancel orders made outside shops (online, by phone, mail order). ---
**Author:** ![prosumer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/prosumer/32/166478_2.png) [@prosumer](https://community.homey.app/u/prosumer)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2022, 8:33am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/advanced-flow-community-q-a-from-ask-me-anything-05-07-2022/65579/171 "2022-07-03T08:33:07Z")
Are you considering to do anything extra for people who supported you by purchasing Homey+ and in the end only got Homey Pro Backups for that? (Maybe a discount on Advanced Flow?) ---
**Author:** ![Henk\_Renting](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/henk_renting/32/87634_2.png) [@Henk\_Renting](https://community.homey.app/u/Henk_Renting)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2022, 8:54am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/advanced-flow-community-q-a-from-ask-me-anything-05-07-2022/65579/172 "2022-07-03T08:54:41Z")
These EU rules do not apply to services or software that you can use right away after buying. ![Screenshot_20220703-105258_Chrome_2~2](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/1/3/1323e0178646f60d84d9b227974d379192f3279c.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2022, 9:03am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/advanced-flow-community-q-a-from-ask-me-anything-05-07-2022/65579/173 "2022-07-03T09:03:21Z")
Neither of the exemptions you highlighted apply, though. ---
**Author:** ![Matt20v](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/matt20v/32/11393_2.png) [@Matt20v](https://community.homey.app/u/Matt20v)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2022, 9:29am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/advanced-flow-community-q-a-from-ask-me-anything-05-07-2022/65579/174 "2022-07-03T09:29:51Z")
This has been the best thing! So worth the small fee, have been able to consolidate flows and make them more advance! Thanks so much for a great feature, its all running great on my Homey 2016 version 👌🏽😊 ---
**Author:** ![Henk\_Renting](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/henk_renting/32/87634_2.png) [@Henk\_Renting](https://community.homey.app/u/Henk_Renting)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2022, 9:57am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/advanced-flow-community-q-a-from-ask-me-anything-05-07-2022/65579/175 "2022-07-03T09:57:40Z")
I highlighted the last line as well now. Better?! ---
**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2022, 10:27am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/advanced-flow-community-q-a-from-ask-me-anything-05-07-2022/65579/176 "2022-07-03T10:27:33Z")
Interesting how from that line you infer that “EU rules do not apply to services or software that you can use right away after buying”. Which, by the way, only applies if the consumer has explicitly signed away their right to return. ---
**Author:** ![Henk\_Renting](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/henk_renting/32/87634_2.png) [@Henk\_Renting](https://community.homey.app/u/Henk_Renting)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2022, 10:44am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/advanced-flow-community-q-a-from-ask-me-anything-05-07-2022/65579/177 "2022-07-03T10:44:00Z")
I know these rules, they do not apply to buying Advanced Flows. If you don’t believe me, that’s fine. And if you know better, that is fine too. ---
**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2022, 11:38am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/advanced-flow-community-q-a-from-ask-me-anything-05-07-2022/65579/178 "2022-07-03T11:38:08Z")
Even Apple, notoriously anti-consumer, offers a 14-day cool-off period for apps you purchase (software that you can use right away after buying) _because they have to_. But I’m sure you know better. ---
**Author:** ![Jo\_San](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jo_san/32/3732_2.png) [@Jo\_San](https://community.homey.app/u/Jo_San)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2022, 11:44am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/advanced-flow-community-q-a-from-ask-me-anything-05-07-2022/65579/179 "2022-07-03T11:44:26Z")
Let’s not go to court with this 🙂 IMHO it is well worth the money (maybe even more) and I can;t imagine Athom would not reimburse in the unlikely case you really do not want to keep using it. ---
**Author:** ![Till](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/till/32/33841_2.png) [@Till](https://community.homey.app/u/Till)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2022, 2:20pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/advanced-flow-community-q-a-from-ask-me-anything-05-07-2022/65579/180 "2022-07-03T14:20:30Z")
You have the same broker error 🙂 Alsop appears at my timeline 🙂 [Previous page](https://community.homey.app/t/advanced-flow-community-q-a-from-ask-me-anything-05-07-2022/65579.md?page=8) [Next page](https://community.homey.app/t/advanced-flow-community-q-a-from-ask-me-anything-05-07-2022/65579.md?page=10)