# Adding kids to the Homey family without a mobile device but with a beacon **URL:** \ **Category:** Questions & Help\ **Created:** [March 31, 2021, 2:15pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/adding-kids-to-the-homey-family-without-a-mobile-device-but-with-a-beacon/45544 "2021-03-31T14:15:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![MartijnN](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/martijnn/32/34348_2.png) [@MartijnN](https://community.homey.app/u/MartijnN)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2021, 2:15pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/adding-kids-to-the-homey-family-without-a-mobile-device-but-with-a-beacon/45544/1 "2021-03-31T14:15:37Z")
All, Wow, learning a lot from this community in running and improving my Homey. I searched the forum but did not find the answer. I want to add my 3 kids to my homey family. However, they do not have a mobile device (\<10 years of age) but I intent to “installed” a bluetooth beacon in their jacket to understand when they are at home and when they are not (and therefore to adjust flows). How can I get my kids to be part of the family without the app? If I follow the basic settings I need to send a link. Thanks for your support! Kind regards, Martijn ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2021, 2:19pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/adding-kids-to-the-homey-family-without-a-mobile-device-but-with-a-beacon/45544/2 "2021-03-31T14:19:56Z")
You just have to add the beacons and give the beacons the name of your kids. ---
**Author:** ![MartijnN](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/martijnn/32/34348_2.png) [@MartijnN](https://community.homey.app/u/MartijnN)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2021, 2:25pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/adding-kids-to-the-homey-family-without-a-mobile-device-but-with-a-beacon/45544/3 "2021-03-31T14:25:09Z")
Ah, but then you don’t use the presence flow? A person came home etc? But a beacon (with the kids name) is in reach? ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2021, 2:49pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/adding-kids-to-the-homey-family-without-a-mobile-device-but-with-a-beacon/45544/4 "2021-03-31T14:49:51Z")
Exactly. It can only be “integrated” when they have the app & an account. With beacons you can create the flows similar, just like you said. I will share my flows for 1 beacon and the beacon app settings, b/c it took a while to get rid of false positives. For the status, I created a virtual “light”, which is set to on/off by the Status flow. (The beacon icons themselves don’t reflect the status, so I put them in a zone called z\_NotToBeOperated) [Flow AtHome](https://homey.app/f/mtyN8y) [Flow Away](https://homey.app/f/2ihJ8y) [Flow Status](https://homey.app/f/skpJ8y) Beacon detection settings: ![Screenshot_20210331-164402_Homey](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/f/8/f84339652a479d46576d847f16c5fa46173e5907.jpeg) Here how the status tiles look: ![Screenshot_20210331-164919_Homey](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/1/a/1ab5091f03c00ec9930c634b2b9a1b54051989fc.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![MartijnN](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/martijnn/32/34348_2.png) [@MartijnN](https://community.homey.app/u/MartijnN)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2021, 2:54pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/adding-kids-to-the-homey-family-without-a-mobile-device-but-with-a-beacon/45544/5 "2021-03-31T14:54:58Z")
Great Peter! Not sure if I completely understand your flows, but let me play with it and see if I can get this to work. Thanks for your quick response and guidance! ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2021, 3:00pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/adding-kids-to-the-homey-family-without-a-mobile-device-but-with-a-beacon/45544/6 "2021-03-31T15:00:41Z")
YW! I used some logic variables as well, to store the status. But I can imagine your not familiar with that. Just ask if you want to know more Oh and I use timers to reduce the chance of bouncing or flipping flows (triggered too much in short time) ![Screenshot_20210331-165823_Homey](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/e/6/e6691bb4cdcf4c7d537846e43fd27e17edd9e81f.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![JPe4619](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jpe4619/32/9017_2.png) [@JPe4619](https://community.homey.app/u/JPe4619)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2021, 3:21pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/adding-kids-to-the-homey-family-without-a-mobile-device-but-with-a-beacon/45544/7 "2021-03-31T15:21:38Z")
> [@MartijnN](#): > > a bluetooth beacon in their jacket Your kids never go out, without their jacket? Even in summer? ---
**Author:** ![MartijnN](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/martijnn/32/34348_2.png) [@MartijnN](https://community.homey.app/u/MartijnN)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2021, 3:25pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/adding-kids-to-the-homey-family-without-a-mobile-device-but-with-a-beacon/45544/8 "2021-03-31T15:25:44Z")
Do you have a better solutions that doesn’t require a surgical intervention? ---
**Author:** ![JPe4619](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jpe4619/32/9017_2.png) [@JPe4619](https://community.homey.app/u/JPe4619)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2021, 3:32pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/adding-kids-to-the-homey-family-without-a-mobile-device-but-with-a-beacon/45544/9 "2021-03-31T15:32:02Z")
Sorry, No I haven’t, it was just a remark, (we) technicians overlook such minor details sometimes. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2021, 12:20am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/adding-kids-to-the-homey-family-without-a-mobile-device-but-with-a-beacon/45544/10 "2021-04-01T00:20:59Z")
🤪🙃 beacon bracelets, beacon necklaces, beacon shoes, beacon bag, beacon lunchbox, beacon bike 😆 The dog / cat should be beaconed too when you’re at it. I got €3,50 beacons from a wellknown Chinese shop, they do the job! ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2021, 1:24pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/adding-kids-to-the-homey-family-without-a-mobile-device-but-with-a-beacon/45544/11 "2021-04-02T13:24:12Z")
great tip here! > [@User account for someone that does not have the app](https://community.homey.app/t/user-account-for-someone-that-does-not-have-the-app/45612/4): > > Planning something along those lines yeah. The person(s) in question are nurses from home help that would need a tag or card to open medicine lockers, enable kitchen equipment and so on so they already have tags anyway. > > I created temporary phone accounts all based on more or less the same e-mail address (gmail allows random +extensions on existing usernames… handy!) - just to get them added to “the family”. Subsequently removed the accounts from my phone again so now they exist in homey only 🤪 . ---
**Author:** ![MartijnN](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/martijnn/32/34348_2.png) [@MartijnN](https://community.homey.app/u/MartijnN)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 9:29pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/adding-kids-to-the-homey-family-without-a-mobile-device-but-with-a-beacon/45544/12 "2021-04-08T21:29:20Z")
Big thanks for all your support, this works perfectly!