# Add zwave device without learning mode **URL:** \ **Category:** Devices\ **Created:** [June 21, 2022, 3:03pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/add-zwave-device-without-learning-mode/64959 "2022-06-21T15:03:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Andras\_Solyom](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/andras_solyom/32/33981_2.png) [@Andras\_Solyom](https://community.homey.app/u/Andras_Solyom)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2022, 3:03pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/add-zwave-device-without-learning-mode/64959/1 "2022-06-21T15:03:40Z")
Hi. I have one Zipato system with fiber roller shutter devices. I hate Zipato and I changed it to Homey. I paired all of devices to Homey, but I have 2 roller shutter, which was unfortunately built into the wall, so I can’t push any button. Is there any way I can install the data extracted from the Zipato center on the Homey center? Thank you for your answer Andras ---
**Author:** ![Dijker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Dijker](https://community.homey.app/u/Dijker)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2022, 3:06pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/add-zwave-device-without-learning-mode/64959/2 "2022-06-21T15:06:22Z")
Nope, not possible! you need to put the both devices in learning mode and add them in Homey that way by adding a Device in Homey. ---
**Author:** ![Rens\_Hoekema](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rens_hoekema/32/12848_2.png) [@Rens\_Hoekema](https://community.homey.app/u/Rens_Hoekema)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 12:18pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/add-zwave-device-without-learning-mode/64959/3 "2022-06-23T12:18:49Z")
sometimes you can get a device in pairing mode by turning the power off and on again, but you would have to read about that in their manual