# Acces control Heimdall and Homey **URL:** \ **Category:** Ideas & Suggestions\ **Created:** [October 23, 2018, 2:27pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/acces-control-heimdall-and-homey/3159 "2018-10-23T14:27:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![mistaoutlaw](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/mistaoutlaw/32/9944_2.png) [@mistaoutlaw](https://community.homey.app/u/mistaoutlaw)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2018, 6:48pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/acces-control-heimdall-and-homey/3159/21 "2018-10-29T18:48:11Z")
hi @Frans_Keeman do you have a link to the K2000? I’m interested in one as well. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Frans\_Keeman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/frans_keeman/32/79711_2.png) [@Frans\_Keeman](https://community.homey.app/u/Frans_Keeman)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2018, 6:51pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/acces-control-heimdall-and-homey/3159/22 "2018-10-29T18:51:38Z")
> [@Frans\_Keeman](#): > > So if you have read this post and also would like a tag reader i have one spare that workes and doesn’t cost much. as i mentioned here above, i have a spare one 😄 its a working AD2000\_M practacally the same as the K2000 if you don’t want my spare one here’s the link [Amazon.de : k2000 keypad](https://www.amazon.de/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?__mk_nl_NL=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&url=search-alias%3Doffice-products&field-keywords=k2000+keypad&rh=n%3A192416031%2Ck%3Ak2000+keypad) ---
**Author:** ![mistaoutlaw](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/mistaoutlaw/32/9944_2.png) [@mistaoutlaw](https://community.homey.app/u/mistaoutlaw)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 7:00pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/acces-control-heimdall-and-homey/3159/23 "2018-11-14T19:00:05Z")
Thanks for the link! ---
**Author:** ![mistaoutlaw](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/mistaoutlaw/32/9944_2.png) [@mistaoutlaw](https://community.homey.app/u/mistaoutlaw)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2018, 3:47pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/acces-control-heimdall-and-homey/3159/24 "2018-11-21T15:47:50Z")
Hi @DaneedeKruyff did you have the chance to test this out? ---
**Author:** ![DaneedeKruyff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/daneedekruyff/32/964_2.png) [@DaneedeKruyff](https://community.homey.app/u/DaneedeKruyff)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2018, 5:25pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/acces-control-heimdall-and-homey/3159/25 "2018-11-21T17:25:42Z")
Nope, still waiting for some parts from China. ---
**Author:** ![mistaoutlaw](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/mistaoutlaw/32/9944_2.png) [@mistaoutlaw](https://community.homey.app/u/mistaoutlaw)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2018, 6:15pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/acces-control-heimdall-and-homey/3159/26 "2018-11-21T18:15:26Z")
Ok, was curious. I just got the power supply and K2000. Waiting for fibaro binary sensor now to see if I can make it work in a practical way ---
**Author:** ![JeeS](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jees/32/1015_2.png) [@JeeS](https://community.homey.app/u/JeeS)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 3:00pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/acces-control-heimdall-and-homey/3159/27 "2018-12-06T15:00:39Z")
Thanks to DaneedeKruyff to give me the tip. I bought a hole set at ‘betaalbaredomotica.nl’ and it works perfect for me. Was quite a struggle to get it working and also to configure the correct flows but very ok now. ---
**Author:** ![vaderag](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/vaderag/32/150_2.png) [@vaderag](https://community.homey.app/u/vaderag)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 8:14pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/acces-control-heimdall-and-homey/3159/28 "2019-01-13T20:14:36Z")
That keypad is cheap as chips… Sadly lacking WAF as it’s ugly as sin. Ideally would like one that’s pretty and works with homey… ---
**Author:** ![M\_a\_r\_c\_o](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/m_a_r_c_o/32/146_2.png) [@M\_a\_r\_c\_o](https://community.homey.app/u/M_a_r_c_o)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2019, 10:06pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/acces-control-heimdall-and-homey/3159/29 "2019-01-15T22:06:08Z")
Paint it pink? 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![mistaoutlaw](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/mistaoutlaw/32/9944_2.png) [@mistaoutlaw](https://community.homey.app/u/mistaoutlaw)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2019, 8:58am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/acces-control-heimdall-and-homey/3159/30 "2019-01-16T08:58:41Z")
Don’t forget about the cost for ac / DC transformer ---
**Author:** ![vaderag](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/vaderag/32/150_2.png) [@vaderag](https://community.homey.app/u/vaderag)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2019, 9:19am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/acces-control-heimdall-and-homey/3159/31 "2019-01-16T09:19:37Z")
Ah yeah. And the fibraro or similar module… The Popp one is probably the closest but tbh that’s still pretty ugly! I’m wondering if something like a square or izettle reader could be modified to serve this purpose Or something like this: [https://www.amazon.co.uk/KKmoon-13-56MHz-Proximity-Smart-Reader/dp/B016DGGMH4/](https://www.amazon.co.uk/KKmoon-13-56MHz-Proximity-Smart-Reader/dp/B016DGGMH4/) ---
**Author:** ![Frans\_Keeman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/frans_keeman/32/79711_2.png) [@Frans\_Keeman](https://community.homey.app/u/Frans_Keeman)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2019, 9:23am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/acces-control-heimdall-and-homey/3159/32 "2019-01-16T09:23:57Z")
At AliExpress there are loads of beautiful types…even with fingerprint scanner. If you use the fibaro sensor with it you can use those alsof.as long it goed on and off ---
**Author:** ![vaderag](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/vaderag/32/150_2.png) [@vaderag](https://community.homey.app/u/vaderag)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2019, 10:15am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/acces-control-heimdall-and-homey/3159/33 "2019-01-16T10:15:32Z")
Problem then is that there is in essence only one user - I like to have different scenes for different users (e.g. cat sitter doesnt get the heating turned on) Seems like there are a bunch of keypads referenced here for use with SmartThings > **[\[RELEASE\] Enhanced ZigBee Keypad Lock - Centralite Keypad, Lowe IRIS Keypad, UEI...](https://community.smartthings.com/t/release-enhanced-zigbee-keypad-lock-centralite-keypad-lowe-iris-keypad-uei-keypad-and-xfinity-keypad-device-handler/124776)** > > On popular request request here is a Enhanced ZigBee Keypad device handler that can make your keypad work like a lock keypad in SmartThings so it can work with SmartApps designed for managing locks and user codes (while maintaining compatibility with... Anyone clever enough to convert that handler for Homey use?!! ---
**Author:** ![Jamie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jamie/32/5274_2.png) [@Jamie](https://community.homey.app/u/Jamie)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2019, 2:05am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/acces-control-heimdall-and-homey/3159/34 "2019-01-17T02:05:55Z")
> > jeroenvollenbrock [13 hours ago] > > I personally don’t have any first-hand experience with them, but i think the BeNext Z-Wave Plus tag reader works rather well ---
**Author:** ![Jolink](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jolink/32/3559_2.png) [@Jolink](https://community.homey.app/u/Jolink)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2019, 9:15pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/acces-control-heimdall-and-homey/3159/35 "2019-03-07T21:15:41Z")
Can anyone post some ideas (or a how to) on how to make/construct a keypad from e.g. Ali and combine it with some kind of sensor (Fibaro binary?) so it works with homey? For instance the idea @DaneedeKruyff had? Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![DaneedeKruyff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/daneedekruyff/32/964_2.png) [@DaneedeKruyff](https://community.homey.app/u/DaneedeKruyff)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2019, 9:00am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/acces-control-heimdall-and-homey/3159/36 "2019-03-08T09:00:39Z")
Unfortunately I haven’t been able yet to build everything together, I did find out the mentioned keypad can not be directly connected to the Fibaro module as the keypad outputs the input voltage on the contacts so the 2 parts need to be isolated from each other. In the mean time I ordered a [optocoupler board](https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/4-kanaals-12-V-24-V-naar-5-V-Input-Hoge-en-Lage-Niveau-Conversie-Optocoupler/32884616105.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.53f04c4dDAstPY) for that purpose but I am not yet able to build it. (if you’re not able to solder you can use this [optocoupler board](https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/PC817-4-Kanaal-Optocoupler-Isolatie-Board-Voltage-Converter-Adapter-Module-3-6-30-v-Driver-Foto/32879970752.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.53f04c4dDAstPY)) ---
**Author:** ![Jolink](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jolink/32/3559_2.png) [@Jolink](https://community.homey.app/u/Jolink)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2019, 9:30am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/acces-control-heimdall-and-homey/3159/37 "2019-03-08T09:30:54Z")
Thanks for your reply. The problem is not so much the soldering part, but more the grocery list (what to buy) and how to assemble to make it work… Looking at how the concept should work (just to see if I got it right / understand it 🙄): the keypad gives an electrical signal when the entered code is right and that electric signal triggers the fibaro binary switch. With the binary switch signal you can trigger a flow (e.g. turn off/on alarm) in Homey. This is how the concept works? ---
**Author:** ![DaneedeKruyff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/daneedekruyff/32/964_2.png) [@DaneedeKruyff](https://community.homey.app/u/DaneedeKruyff)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2019, 9:49am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/acces-control-heimdall-and-homey/3159/38 "2019-03-08T09:49:53Z")
Yes, that’s correct. This is the keypad: [https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/RFID-standalone-access-control-card-reader-with-digital-keypad-10-TK4100-keys-for-home-apartment-factory/32794204117.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.250d4c4dw5CQc4](https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/RFID-standalone-access-control-card-reader-with-digital-keypad-10-TK4100-keys-for-home-apartment-factory/32794204117.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.250d4c4dw5CQc4) This is the optocoupler: [https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/4-kanaals-12-V-24-V-naar-5-V-Input-Hoge-en-Lage-Niveau-Conversie-Optocoupler/32884616105.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.53f04c4dDAstPY](https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/4-kanaals-12-V-24-V-naar-5-V-Input-Hoge-en-Lage-Niveau-Conversie-Optocoupler/32884616105.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.53f04c4dDAstPY) This is the Fibaro Binary module to use: [https://www.robbshop.nl/fibaro-z-wave-universele-binare-sensor](https://www.robbshop.nl/fibaro-z-wave-universele-binare-sensor) I’ll see if I can make a schematic drawing. ---
**Author:** ![David\_Maas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/david_maas/32/25776_2.png) [@David\_Maas](https://community.homey.app/u/David_Maas)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2019, 7:23pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/acces-control-heimdall-and-homey/3159/39 "2019-03-08T19:23:36Z")
> [@DaneedeKruyff](#): > > I’ll see if I can make a schematic drawing. And maybe when you are done some pictures? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![DaneedeKruyff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/daneedekruyff/32/964_2.png) [@DaneedeKruyff](https://community.homey.app/u/DaneedeKruyff)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2019, 12:34pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/acces-control-heimdall-and-homey/3159/40 "2019-03-11T12:34:15Z")
This is a rough schematic drawing: ![15](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/2X/a/acc3b4b6b79a918d0d9de4ae4f2e8f9a0d3afa66.png) Think the _Bell_ output acts as a momentary switch, the _Lock_ outputs the input voltage so an optocoupler has to be used there. [Previous page](https://community.homey.app/t/acces-control-heimdall-and-homey/3159.md?page=1) [Next page](https://community.homey.app/t/acces-control-heimdall-and-homey/3159.md?page=3)