# A button without batteries **URL:** \ **Category:** Devices\ **Created:** [June 20, 2022, 9:28am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/a-button-without-batteries/64928 "2022-06-20T09:28:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Ronald\_Otto](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ronald_otto/32/51743_2.png) [@Ronald\_Otto](https://community.homey.app/u/Ronald_Otto)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2022, 9:28am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/a-button-without-batteries/64928/1 "2022-06-20T09:28:00Z")
In my home i have Fibaro dimmers. Lights are directly connected to those dimmers. I can enter the room through 2 doors. The dimmer is near one door. If you enter the room through the other door, i would like to have a wall switch there without batteries. A bit like the [GAMMA | KlikAanKlikUit Wandschakelaar AWST-8800 kopen? | schakelaars](https://www.gamma.nl/assortiment/klikaanklikuit-wandschakelaar-awst-8800/p/B390762) but without batteries. I do have 240v behind the socket and try to avoid having to change batteries every month somewhere. Any tips? ---
**Author:** ![DirkG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/dirkg/32/118897_2.png) [@DirkG](https://community.homey.app/u/DirkG)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2022, 10:08am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/a-button-without-batteries/64928/2 "2022-06-20T10:08:13Z")
I am not sure if I have understood the current requirements correctly. Before you installed the Fibaro dimmer on one door, were you able to turn the lights on/off from both doors? If so, then it should be possible to do a the two-way connection: ![Anschlu%C3%9Fbeispiel-Mehre-Taster-und-fibaro-Dimmer](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/8/8/88352bcb9305a48b5141d438a13a9cad0d8710c2.png) Switch/Button without batteries: Switches that support EnOcean do not need a battery. However, they are not compatible with Homey. The Fibaro Walli controller can be operated with 5-24V DC. But for this you need an appropriate power supply. This is probably not very helpful, sorry. Maybe someone else has some tips. ---
**Author:** ![Ronald\_Otto](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ronald_otto/32/51743_2.png) [@Ronald\_Otto](https://community.homey.app/u/Ronald_Otto)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2022, 10:23am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/a-button-without-batteries/64928/3 "2022-06-20T10:23:29Z")
Thanks for the reply. It is not a switching problem. The fibaro dimmer works. I was thinking more like: I place an empty switch near the other door (just a switch, not a dimmer) and when you tap that switch, a flow in Homey switches on the fibaro. The question was, what switch does exist that works on 240v. ---
**Author:** ![PetervdK](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/petervdk/32/20669_2.png) [@PetervdK](https://community.homey.app/u/PetervdK)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2022, 10:36am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/a-button-without-batteries/64928/4 "2022-06-20T10:36:43Z")
This could be an option: > **[26.52US $ 32% OFF|Neo Coolcam Smart Light Switch Touch Sensitive Wall Switch...](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/2251832609353442.html?gatewayAdapt=4itemAdapt)** > > Smarter Shopping, Better Living! Aliexpress.com ---
**Author:** ![DirkG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/dirkg/32/118897_2.png) [@DirkG](https://community.homey.app/u/DirkG)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2022, 10:46am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/a-button-without-batteries/64928/5 "2022-06-20T10:46:21Z")
Okay, i guess we don’t understand each other… 😉 If you want to start some flows with a switch (powered by 240 V) only and and no consumer is connected to the switch, you can use e.g. a Fibaro Single Switch 2 or a Fibaro Smart Module. Both are able to start different scenes/flows by tapping the switch 1x, 2x, 3x, held down, release. ---
**Author:** ![Ronald\_Otto](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ronald_otto/32/51743_2.png) [@Ronald\_Otto](https://community.homey.app/u/Ronald_Otto)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2022, 10:50am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/a-button-without-batteries/64928/6 "2022-06-20T10:50:31Z")
Thanks! That helps. ---
**Author:** ![Osorkon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/osorkon/32/43026_2.png) [@Osorkon](https://community.homey.app/u/Osorkon)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2022, 10:53am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/a-button-without-batteries/64928/7 "2022-06-20T10:53:51Z")
If both are Z-Wave no flows are needed. I would prefer to use associations between Fibaro switch and Fibaro Dimmer. ---
**Author:** ![Mike1233](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/mike1233/32/20991_2.png) [@Mike1233](https://community.homey.app/u/Mike1233)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2022, 11:32am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/a-button-without-batteries/64928/8 "2022-06-20T11:32:45Z")
There are switches without batteries but they work not directly with Homey. They work with the Hue hub. And if that works with Homey, I have also no idea. I found this. [https://community.homey.app/t/frinds-of-hue/44922/5](https://community.homey.app/t/frinds-of-hue/44922/5) ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2022, 4:51pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/a-button-without-batteries/64928/9 "2022-06-20T16:51:02Z")
FYI the AWST switches work for years on one battery 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Davy\_Manderveld](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/davy_manderveld/32/31337_2.png) [@Davy\_Manderveld](https://community.homey.app/u/Davy_Manderveld)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 3:16pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/a-button-without-batteries/64928/10 "2022-06-24T15:16:57Z")
Shelly? ---
**Author:** ![David\_K](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/david_k/32/10319_2.png) [@David\_K](https://community.homey.app/u/David_K)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2022, 6:38am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/a-button-without-batteries/64928/11 "2022-06-26T06:38:57Z")
I had the same idea however in Ronalds example he wants to control the same actuator over 2 switches. In that case if you use associations one switch doesn’t know state of the ligh i.e. So You click to turn it off while switch sends on, then you need to click again to send off. Anyway I had similar ideas and fully discarded those. Only way is to find zwave switch that has on and off buttons (similar to heatit) and then when you push off it send associated off and vice-versa. No out of sync can happen there. ---
**Author:** ![Ronald\_Otto](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ronald_otto/32/51743_2.png) [@Ronald\_Otto](https://community.homey.app/u/Ronald_Otto)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2022, 9:47am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/a-button-without-batteries/64928/12 "2022-06-26T09:47:48Z")
The out of sync issue can be solved by a flow. Since you can reda the status of a switch, i can change the status of the other switch. But your example will work fine also and does the trick. On tap switch state. Good idea, thanks. ---
**Author:** ![David\_K](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/david_k/32/10319_2.png) [@David\_K](https://community.homey.app/u/David_K)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2022, 12:07pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/a-button-without-batteries/64928/13 "2022-06-26T12:07:08Z")
Indeed with flows there is no issues. I was describing situations in which associations are used without flow or homey interventions. ---
**Author:** ![Ronald\_Otto](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ronald_otto/32/51743_2.png) [@Ronald\_Otto](https://community.homey.app/u/Ronald_Otto)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2022, 7:33am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/a-button-without-batteries/64928/14 "2022-06-27T07:33:44Z")
id ropped the quastion at @ROBBshop and they helped. The solution i am going to try since i have walli dimmers and looks are important: I ordered this one at robbsjop. The walli controller: [https://www.robbshop.nl/en/fibaro-walli-controller-wireless-switch-white](https://www.robbshop.nl/en/fibaro-walli-controller-wireless-switch-white) Powered by this one [https://www.amazon.nl/dp/B078Q2ZMPT/ref=pe\_28126711\_487805961\_TE\_item?th=1](https://www.amazon.nl/dp/B078Q2ZMPT/ref=pe_28126711_487805961_TE_item?th=1) I could not find the measurements so i hope it fits 🙂 If you try this, don’t forget not to use the fibaro battery powered. Once powerd by battery, you have to unpair the switch to switch to external power. I will post my findings. ---
**Author:** ![DirkG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/dirkg/32/118897_2.png) [@DirkG](https://community.homey.app/u/DirkG)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2022, 10:12am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/a-button-without-batteries/64928/15 "2022-06-27T10:12:52Z")
This was also one of my suggestions: > [@DirkG](#): > > The Fibaro Walli controller can be operated with 5-24V DC. But for this you need an appropriate power supply. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Ronald\_Otto](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ronald_otto/32/51743_2.png) [@Ronald\_Otto](https://community.homey.app/u/Ronald_Otto)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2022, 11:41am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/a-button-without-batteries/64928/16 "2022-06-27T11:41:38Z")
> [@DirkG](#): > > Fibaro Single Switch Ah, When i looked at Fibaro switch i found the one that you could connects lights by wire to. They all look the same 🙂 They call it the walli controller. I hope the power supply i ordered will work and fits in the wall. It is not that expensive, so we will see. ---
**Author:** ![Ronald\_Otto](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ronald_otto/32/51743_2.png) [@Ronald\_Otto](https://community.homey.app/u/Ronald_Otto)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 12:12pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/a-button-without-batteries/64928/17 "2022-06-29T12:12:27Z")
> [@Ronald\_Otto](#): > > I hope the power supply i ordered will work and fits in the wall. It is not that expensive, so we will see. It fits. Now let’s see if it works 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Ronald\_Otto](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ronald_otto/32/51743_2.png) [@Ronald\_Otto](https://community.homey.app/u/Ronald_Otto)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2022, 8:34pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/a-button-without-batteries/64928/18 "2022-07-03T20:34:23Z")
It fits. A bit of soldering and it works. You can see it work here: [FilesOnline](https://tuxis.filesonline.eu/s/kmsFQZsGn7krcbd) So i used these parts: The walli controller: [https://www.robbshop.nl/en/fibaro-walli-controller-wireless-switch-white](https://www.robbshop.nl/en/fibaro-walli-controller-wireless-switch-white) Powered by this one [https://www.amazon.nl/dp/B078Q2ZMPT/ref=pe\_28126711\_487805961\_TE\_item?th=1](https://www.amazon.nl/dp/B078Q2ZMPT/ref=pe_28126711_487805961_TE_item?th=1) No battery needed, same look as the other switches and now i can create flows to switch other switches en set statuses and colors. Thanks for all the tips ---
**Author:** ![Bartj](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/bartj/32/56465_2.png) [@Bartj](https://community.homey.app/u/Bartj)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 1:18pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/a-button-without-batteries/64928/19 "2022-09-30T13:18:19Z")
Hi, i have installed the controller on an external power supply, but can’t change the led color in flows. can you do that? ---
**Author:** ![DirkG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/dirkg/32/118897_2.png) [@DirkG](https://community.homey.app/u/DirkG)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 11:03am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/a-button-without-batteries/64928/20 "2022-10-01T11:03:59Z")
You’re not the only one with this issue, please have a look at this [discussion](https://community.homey.app/t/fibaro-walli-controller-eine-fernbedienung-aus-der-walli-serie/44388) (only German). So I guess this is a bug in the Fibaro app. I have 2 Fibaro Walli Controller in use, but battery powered, and I can’t change the LED color also. Of course, not via flow but by changing the LED settings in the advanced device settings after waking up the device. Could you please contact Athom, hoping that they fix this issue. [Next page](https://community.homey.app/t/a-button-without-batteries/64928.md?page=2)