# 4.0.0 backup **URL:** \ **Category:** Questions & Help\ **Created:** [February 13, 2020, 3:58am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/4-0-0-backup/25844 "2020-02-13T03:58:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Dusan\_Debeljak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/dusan_debeljak/32/9650_2.png) [@Dusan\_Debeljak](https://community.homey.app/u/Dusan_Debeljak)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 3:58am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/4-0-0-backup/25844/1 "2020-02-13T03:58:45Z")
When I saw backup in release notes, I was… well finaly!!! Allready started to think about buying homey pro as backup/restore would be a way to migrate…but after completing the update, under backup I saw only subscribtion based backup…realy? So I went from happy and new homey pro to looking at fibaro hc3. Is there any option to do local backups? ---
**Author:** ![DirkG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/dirkg/32/118897_2.png) [@DirkG](https://community.homey.app/u/DirkG)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 4:54am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/4-0-0-backup/25844/2 "2020-02-13T04:54:13Z")
No. > [@\[HowTo\] Homey Backup and Restore - Homey Migration](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-backup-and-restore-homey-migration/25732): > > Athom has released Homey Cloud Backup service in the latest firmware (4.0.0) and a restore option in the mobile App and [Web based Homey Setup](http://setup.athom.com/#). You need a [Homey+ subscription](https://homey.app/plus) to make backups and to be able to restore backups. As Alpha tester I already tested restoring my production Homey to a second Homey. I want to share my experience and give tips to migrate for example your Homey to a Homey Pro. (or just any type to any other Homey) This report is based on tests wit a pre-release version … > [@Homey Cloud Backup - (part of Homey Pro Backups subscription)](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-cloud-backup-part-of-homey-subscription/24523/8): > > I didn’t ask why there won’t be a local back-up. I didn’t want to jump to conclusions. For me, the site was unclear whether there would be local back-ups or not. I first wanted to know if there would be local back-ups. I felt this was a legitimate question, which other Homey users would probably also be interested in. You seem very convinced there won’t be a local back-up, but it wasn’t to me. I’m sorry for double-checking. Given the answer and the likes it got, I apparently upset some communi… A well meant recommendation from me: inform yourself more in the forums (Athom and Fibaro). The HC3 is currently still far away from being a well functioning system. According to my latest information only Z-Wave can be used at the moment. Zigbee will be unlocked sometime this year by a firmware update. Some plugins do not work. Migration from HC2 to HC3 not possible. ---
**Author:** ![Dusan\_Debeljak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/dusan_debeljak/32/9650_2.png) [@Dusan\_Debeljak](https://community.homey.app/u/Dusan_Debeljak)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 5:35am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/4-0-0-backup/25844/3 "2020-02-13T05:35:25Z")
Thank you for the info and HC3 advice. I know nothing is perfect, that is why I only started to think about other options… I would need to buy homey pro anyway then on top they want a subscriprion for such a basic service as backup as it could be easy done localy. Local was the reason many of us started with homey. I guess I would be wiling to pay subscription for some advanced service with added value, but backup of the config…nope, rather go back to openhub. Allready have it for dashboard and advanced insights… Will see, just a question of time for me. ---
**Author:** ![Dijker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Dijker](https://community.homey.app/u/Dijker)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 5:44am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/4-0-0-backup/25844/4 "2020-02-13T05:44:49Z")
> There is alredy a topy abuot this. > This topic is closed. If you disagree with closing this topic, please contact any of the moderators.